<div dir="ltr"><div>A client sent me a twenty page ai analysis of a twenty page license agreement. So yes, ai is increasing bills.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Regards,</span><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,204)"><font color="#000000">Scott</font></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,204);font-size:12.7273px">Scott Landsbaum, Inc.</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,204)"><a href="tel:323-314-7881" value="+13233147881" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">323-314-7881</a> / f 323-714-2454 </span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,204)">8306 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 420, Beverly Hills, CA 90211</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px;color:rgb(102,102,204)"><a href="http://www.scottlandsbaum.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.scottlandsbaum.com</a> / </span><font color="#6666cc"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottlandsbaum/" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/scottlandsbaum/</a></font><br><br style="color:rgb(102,102,204)"><font size="1" style="color:rgb(102,102,204)">NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, forward, print, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return email or by telephone at <a href="tel:%28323%29%20314-7881" value="+13233147881" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">(323) 314-7881</a>.<br><br>IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE:<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,255)"> </span></font><font size="1" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,204)">Any discussion of tax matters contained in this or any email (including any attachments) or in any oral or </font><font size="1" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,204)">other </font><font size="1" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,204)">written communication is not intended to be used and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding U.S. tax related penalties or in connection with the promotion, marketing or recommendation of any of the matters addressed in the communication.</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 10:09\u202fAM Martin, Winfield B. (Perkins Coie) via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg8828925457088789372">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">You\u2019re far from the only one. I increasingly find that I\u2019m having to spend time rebutting information that my clients bring to me from ChatGPT. I know that they think it\u2019s
helpful, but all that it usually does is increase their bill and slow us down.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(91,57,183)">Perkins Coie</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 15, 2025 10:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jessica R. Friedman <<a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com" target="_blank">jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] When your client cites ChatGPT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Please tell me that I am not the only one on this list to have a client who, after having been given an explanation of some specific aspect of a trademark application or TM
</span>application<span style="font-size:10pt"> procedure, <span style="color:black;background:white">
responded, <i>Well, Chat GPT says</i></span></span><i><span style="color:black;background:white">\u2026</span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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