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<blockquote>On Sep 25, 2025, at 7:10\u202fAM, Mark F. Warzecha via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote>
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<p class="yiv1050612707MsoNormal">Client’s registration covers a combined word/design mark. The O in the word portion contains graphics. Client has removed the graphics from the O in the mark. Current use of the mark is just a word mark. Acceptable specimen or a material alteration for Section 8 & 15 purposes? </p>
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