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<p class="MsoNormal">They are still identified by the 79 series prefix in serial numbers (for now). Is anyone aware of how many other countries identify their registrations as Madrid designations or not?
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 28, 2025 7:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <carl@oppedahl.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Registration Certificates for Madrid marks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Katherine and Ken, you inspired a blog article. <a href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/uspto-discontinues-recognizing-madrid-protocol-status/">
https://blog.oppedahl.com/uspto-discontinues-recognizing-madrid-protocol-status/</a> .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/28/2025 4:16 PM, Ken Boone via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="elementtoproof"><b>>> I imagine a curious person with more energy than me could tinker with that search and maybe work out when the USPTO mistake started.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's a recent change. By my quick checks, Madrid registrations for August 5<sup>th</sup> like <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reg. No. 7,877,282<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Registered Aug. 05, 2025<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OWNER OF INTERNATIONAL REGISTRATION 1838609 DATED 01-07-2025,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">EXPIRES 01-07-2035<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">SER. NO. 79-416,815, FILED 01-07-2025<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">include the <b>international registration number</b>, but Madrid registrations for August 12<sup>th</sup> like<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reg. No. 7,885,743<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Registered Aug. 12, 2025<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">SER. NO. 79-423,985, FILED 12-02-2024<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">do not include the international registration number. I checked a few registration certificates for August 19<sup>th</sup> & August 26<sup>th</sup> also, and those did not include the
<b>international registration number</b>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On the TMEP, the search for "international registration number" only retrieves 3 references, namely<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=1">1</a><a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=1">900</a>>
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1902</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e741.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=1">
1902.08</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e752.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=1">
1902.08(a) - USPTO Requirements (May2025)</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">international registration number; The serial number of the U.S. application and/or the registration number of the U.S. registration that formed the basis of the international registration; The name and address...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=2">1900</a>>
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1906</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1705.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=2">
1906.01</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1739.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=2">
1906.01(a)</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1750.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=2">
1906.01(a)(i) - Requirements for Submitting Changes in Ownership of International Registration Through the USPTO (May2025)</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">request to record a change of ownership filed through the USPTO must include: The international registration number; The name and address of the holder of the international registration; The name and...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=3">1900</a>>
<a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1692.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=3">
1906</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1705.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=3">
1906.01</a>> <a href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/result/TMEP-1900d1e1851.html?q=%22international%20registration%20number%22&ccb=on&ncb=off&icb=off&fcb=off&ver=current&syn=adj&results=compact&sort=relevance&cnt=10&index=3">
1906.01(b) - Restriction of Holder\u2019s Rights of Disposal (May2025)</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">. 37 C.F.R. §§7.22, 7.24(a). A request to record a restriction filed through the USPTO must include: The international registration number; The name and address of the holder of the...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">for what that's worth (i.e., I doubt the TMEP states any <b>
requirement </b>that international registration numbers must be included on registration certificates, but I don't search the TMEP often).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ken Boone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> E-trademarks <a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">
<e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> on behalf of Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks
<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 28, 2025 9:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Registration Certificates for Madrid marks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="elementtoproof">I did a search "SN:79* AND RD:[2025-09-07 TO 2025-09-28]" and the first four hits all lacked the "owner of international registration" text. I stopped clicking after seeing it four times in a row. I imagine a curious person with
more energy than me could tinker with that search and maybe work out when the USPTO mistake started.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I suppose one thing to investigate is whether the presence of "owner of international registration" text is actually required by law or rule or TMEP. If it is not actually required, then I guess this may be simply a cost-cutting measure.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Years ago when the USPTO began publishing patent applications, the pub would list the firm name on the front page. Then I guess some beancounter noticed that the law did not require this info to be there. And the USPTO stopped providing that information.
It could be a similar thing here maybe. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79352768&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79352768&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79360847&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79360847&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79363075&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79363075&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/28/2025 7:46 AM, Katherine Koenig via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Do Registration Certificates for Madrid marks no longer show the International Registration information? I just received the second or third in which there\u2019s no mention of an International Registration, whereas this is what they used to show something like
this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>OWNER OF INTERNATIONAL REGISTRATION 1794266 DATED 05-06-2024,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>EXPIRES 05-06-2034<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I called TAC about 3-4 weeks ago to ask for a reprint of the first one I encountered, and was assured it was a USPTO mistake that would be corrected, but it hasn\u2019t yet been fixed and I\u2019ve since received a few more like it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Katherine<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Dr. Katherine Koenig<o:p></o:p></p>
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