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<p class="MsoNormal">I\u2019m with Kevin on Google. Its been very easy and always worked except for one time when the USPTO did something with their authentication software that forced everyone to re-authenticate. It\u2019s an app on my iphone so it has to work with
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> E-trademarks &lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 13, 2025 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kevin Grierson &lt;kgrierson@cm.law&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] New authentication methods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">I've been using Google authenticator for years because the PTO was at one point not very good about sending out the verification emails.&nbsp; Never had any issues with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
 on behalf of Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 13, 2025 5:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mark Kaufman &lt;<a href="mailto:kaufman@kaufmankahn.com">kaufman@kaufmankahn.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] New authentication methods</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Microsoft Authenticator has been simple to use.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">Mark S. Kaufman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">Kaufman &amp; Kahn, LLP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">10 Grand Central</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">155 East 44<sup>th</sup> Street, 19<sup>th</sup> Floor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">New York, NY&nbsp; 10017</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">Office:&nbsp;+1 (212) 293-5556, x 2</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">Mobile: +1 (917) 453-7807</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">Email:&nbsp;
</span><a href="mailto:kaufman@kaufmankahn.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif;color:#0563C1">kaufman@kaufmankahn.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif">
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<p class="xmsonormal"><a href="http://www.kaufmankahn.com/"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Book Antiqua&quot;,serif;color:#0563C1">www.kaufmankahn.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> E-trademarks &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>carla calcagno via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 13, 2025 4:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Oppedahl Carl &lt;<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> carla calcagno &lt;<a href="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com">cccalcagno@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] New authentication methods</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Has anyone researched or have any thoughts on the new 2 step authentication methods required by the USPTO.&nbsp; For example, has anyone used OKTA, Google Authenticator, or Microsoft Authenticator?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">I am looking for the simplest to install/ use/ and configure across both Apple and PC devices.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Carla Calcagno<o:p></o:p></p>
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