<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I have to use Microsoft authenticator for the firm's web services. So I hooked up my uspto account to that, and so far it's no incremental failure point. I usually keep the phone in a different part of my house, not right at my desk, so I have to go get it when I log in.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 7:44\u202fPM Alex Butterman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg7586672861441282977">
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