<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Microsoft Authenticator has been good for me with USPTO, Pacer and Clio (billing and time management software of choice).<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mark S. Kaufman</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Kaufman & Kahn, LLP</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Email: <a href="mailto:kaufman@kaufmankahn.com">kaufman@kaufmankahn.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><a href="http://www.kaufmankahn.com/" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">www.kaufmankahn.com</font></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">10 Grand Central</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://5/0" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/0" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392);">155 East 44</a><sup><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://5/0" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/0" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392);">th</a></sup><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://5/0" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/0" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392);"> Street, 19</a><sup><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://5/0" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/0" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392);">th</a></sup><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://5/0" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/0" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392);"> Floor</a></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.38); caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://5/0" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/0" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392); caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">New York, NY 10017</a> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mobile: <a href="tel:(917)%20453-7807" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5/1" style="text-decoration-color: rgba(127, 127, 127, 0.380392);">(917) 453-7807</a> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tel.: <a href="tel:(212)%20293-5556" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="6">(212) 293-5556</a>, x 2</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><img webkitattachmentid="c7baeb76-bfe2-4560-b30d-d75747e43f21" border="0" width="371" height="51" id="Picture_x0020_7" src="blob:null/543ad2ba-bbc7-46f0-ad10-e7347d90acee" _mf_state="1" title="null" style="width: 3.8666in; height: 0.5333in;" data-unique-identifier=""></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This email is intended only for the party to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged or confidential information. 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Same, using it pretty much since 2FA was required and never had a
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Chestek Legal<br>
4641 Post St.<br>
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<a href="https://calendly.com/pamela-chesteklegal/30min">Set a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Annette Heller via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 10, 2025 4:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Annette Heller
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tmattorneyheller@aol.com"><tmattorneyheller@aol.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] OKTA Verify - Having
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have downloaded the software, followed the
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work. Just goes into a loop. Has anyone else have a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Annette
P. Heller<br>
Trademark/Copyright Attorney<br>
TM Law & Associates<br>
400 Chesterfield Center Ste 400<br>
Chesterfield [St Louis] MO 63017<br>
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</span><a href="http://www.trademarkatty.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">www.TrademarkAtty.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
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314-469-2610 Fax 314-469-4850</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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