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Nope, there are none of those things in it. That's sort of the
mystery, what exactly is it that they think was so critical that the
whole agreement should remain in effect? When I went through it, the
only terms that I would have survive were non-disparagement (hey,
why not?), choice of law, enforcement costs, and notices. <br>
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Pam<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, March 8, 2024 at 5:26 PM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ip-transactions] How to manage
survival of some terms of an agreement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I
have seen a lot of trademark licenses, but have not seen
that provision. I share your concern: a very bad idea
which would force you to consider the possible meaning
of each term which continues without the license grant.
Easier and better to take it out. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Tony
Sarabia <br>
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IP Business Law, Inc.<br>
320 via Pasqual<br>
Redondo Beach, CA 90277<br>
(310)377-5171<br>
<a href="http://www.calrestitution.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.calrestitution.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3/8/2024 2:07 PM, Pamela Chestek
via Ip-transactions wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm
reviewing a trademark license that someone else wrote
and I see something I've not seen before and wondering
why it's done this way. It's not written by an
adversary, I was just asked for a second opinion on it.
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The document is an agreement that includes a trademark
license. There are very few other terms; it is a
royalty-free license so there isn't any need for
commercial terms like payment, etc. It has the standard
product approval, marketing approval, termination, and
boilerplate, but nothing particularly substantive
outside of the trademark license.
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Upon termination, the agreement says expressly that only
the license (identified by section number) terminates
and "Except for any obligations in this license that
expressly state they apply only during the term of this
license, all provisions of this license will survive a
License Termination Event." <br>
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So first off, I think the references to "license" should
be "Agreement" - they've misused the word "license" to
mean both the specific grant language and the document
itself, so that needs to get cleaned up.
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But fixing that problem, have you seen license
agreements where the premise is that the agreement
itself remains operative, it's only the license grant
that terminates? Typically the agreement as a whole
terminates and only specifically identified sections
survive. I'm a little nervous about the ways that a
breaching licensee might try to claim they still get to
do things that might infringe. For example, there is a
section, different from the license grant, that
describes how the mark should be used. Might they claim
that section didn't terminate and by implication they
get to use the mark?
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I'm just wondering what I'm missing. I'm thinking maybe
they used an agreement that had more significant
business terms (e.g., royalty payments) where you do
want to make sure you continue to get those even after
the license terminates?
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Pam <br>
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Pamela S. Chestek <br>
Chestek Legal <br>
300 Fayetteville St. <br>
Unit 2492 <br>
Raleigh, NC 27602 <br>
+1 919-800-8033 <br>
<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>
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