[Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp

Tue Nov 7 15:40:12 UTC 2023

Our internal server uses UTC and is physically in the US, so I second 
Mr. Ahmadi's statement.

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On 11/7/2023 10:27 AM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentcenter wrote:
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> Ohmigod… If the USPTO is using servers outside the US… isn’t that a 
> violation of foreign export laws (because of US origin 
> applications/inventions?
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> *From:*Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On 
> Behalf Of *Ismail Ahmadi via Patentcenter
> *Sent:* Monday, November 6, 2023 7:58 PM
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> *Cc:* Ismail Ahmadi <IAhmadi at oblon.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp
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> Some SQL databases store datetime as Universal Time Coordinated (UTC) 
> which is 5 hours ahead of EST.  I suspect that’s what’s going on here. 
>  It doesn't necessarily mean the servers are located outside the country.
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> *Cc:* Randall Svihla <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp
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> The EBC might be able to explain why the time shown is 5 hours ahead 
> of EST and what it means.
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> From: Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf 
> Of Neil R. Ormos via Patentcenter
> Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 6:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp
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> Randall Svihla wrote:
> > [Watt, Rachel S. wrote:]
>
> >> I'm filing an application in docx
> >> format. Looking at the USPTO feedback document,
> >> their timestamp on their comments is 5 hours
> >> ahead (I'm in EST).
>
> >> Is this an issue? What if I was filing at 11:00
> >> pm EST?
>
> > Obviously they are using GMT. Why are they
> > using GMT? The system they are using to check
> > the DOCX document for errors must be running on
> > GMT. Maybe it's in the UK or Ireland? Although
> > I would think foreign export laws would prevent
> > that.
>
> To the extent the PTO displays or prints its local time in other 
> contexts, and to the extent the official time at the USPTO is some 
> form of Eastern Time, it would be reasonable for the PTO to indicate 
> the time zone next to any time it renders that does not conform to 
> Eastern Time. (Well, actually, the PTO should provide the time zone 
> next to every time it renders, since the cost of doing so is zero and 
> there's at least some benefit in eliminating ambiguity.)
>
> > As far as how does it affect the filing
> > date, who knows? Call the EBC and ask them.
>
> How could anything the EBC might say help a filer?
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