[Patentcenter] Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?

[Randall Svihla]

OPLA is hit or miss.  Some of the agents are very knowledgeable, others not so much.  Try calling them again.


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Subject: Re: [Patentcenter] Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?

Already spoke with OPLA. They sent me to the Certified Copy Center, at which no one had any idea what OPLA was smoking.  (I don't need a "certified" copy, but....)   Certified Copy Center could be an appropriate option for unpublished patent documents in limited number of circumstances, none of which apply here, as the OPLA attorney was advised (i.e., existing applicant/assignee/attorney of record/inventor/power-to-inspect).

Best regards,

-Jim

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From: Sarah Adriano <sbadriano at adrianoassociates.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?
Jim, I'd call OPLA.  They'll be able to help you.   Sarah

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Subject: [Patentcenter] Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?

I've been trying for weeks to get access to a (expired) provisional application on behalf of the widow of the deceased inventor, as there is interest in the likely subject matter, given the inventor's renown in his field.  There was (as far as we know) no attorney, no co-inventor listed in the file, and, obviously, no available record of the application.  I have appropriate documentation identifying the widow as a legal representative and have filed a power of attorney signed by same.  This resulted in an Unauthorized Signature response from the PTO.  After speaking with people in the inventor's assistance center, USPTO legal office, and certification section I'm no closer to getting access as each PTO contact's respective passing the buck has yet to identify someone that actually knows how to gain access.  I have only the inventor name and the application number to go on.  Any ideas how to get access?


Best regards,



-Jim



James C. Larsen
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Larsen IP PLLC

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