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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>In a course I took recently from the USPTO, Kimberly Williams explained that the Examiner or person handling the papers enters a date when the status is changed in the USPTO system as it leaves their function/control to move on to the next function for internal tracking. The mail date is when it is actually mailed and these dates will likely always be different. We would see the last status date but not the other status dates and the mail date.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sincerely,</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Lucida Handwriting"'>Karen L. 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If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy or use the information contained in it. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email and delete this document. We are not responsible for any changes made to a document other than by us, e.g., such as those entered by transmission, or for the effect of the changes on the document\u2019s meaning. We accept no liability for any damage caused by this email or its attachments due to viruses, interference, interception, corruption, or unauthorized access.</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrea R. Jacobson via Patentcenter<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com; 'Randall Svihla' <rsvihla@nsiplaw.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Andrea R. Jacobson <arj@mcgarrybair.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I believe the status date has been different for quite a while \u2013I know that I have noticed it\u2019s a very different date related to issued patents because it has tripped me when doing intake of transferred files. On active matters it seems to quite often use the imaging date and not the mailing date. Some example:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A patent issued today shows a status of \u201cPatented Case 10/18/2023\u201d which is the mailing date of the issue notification. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A non-final OA has a status of \u201cNon Final Action Mailed 11/02/2023\u201d which is the <u>imaging</u> date of the non-final action. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=566 height=142 style='width:5.8916in;height:1.4833in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image003.jpg@01DA116F.2A193CB0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Watt, Rachel S. via Patentcenter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 6, 2023 5:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>; 'Randall Svihla' <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Watt, Rachel S. <<a href="mailto:Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com">Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I\u2019ve checked Word and my date and time are set to my time zone. So I don\u2019t know what is going on.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>With your issue, unfortunately, I\u2019ve noticed the \u201cstatus\u201d date has mostly differed from the last action in documents and transactions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sandra L Etherton via Patentcenter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 6, 2023 5:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>; 'Randall Svihla' <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Sandra L Etherton <<a href="mailto:sandra@ethertonlaw.com">sandra@ethertonlaw.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:solid #1F2146 3.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;background:red'><b><span style='color:white'>External Email - Use Caution </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Don\u2019t feel silly. Patent Center is making us question a lot of stuff. Today I looked up a just-issued office action for a pending patent application in Patent Center. The office action was emailed today, Nov 6, 2023, but the \u201cstatus\u201d says it was mailed Nov 2, 2023. Obviously this affects the due date for the response. And there was zero activity in documents or transactions on Nov2.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>However, I checked PAIR and it too showed the same inconsistent status date (once I finally got in after getting the \u201csearch limit reached\u201d error message \u2013 twice). </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So, has the \u201cstatus\u201d date always differed from the last action in documents and transactions? I don\u2019t know, but it\u2019s Patent Center that made me wonder.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sandra</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>______________________</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy'>Sandra L Etherton</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy'>Registered U.S. Patent Attorney</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>ETHERTON LAW GROUP, LLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>tel: (602) 681-3331 | fax: (602) 681-3339 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>email: </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:sandra@ethertonlaw.com"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>sandra@ethertonlaw.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy'><a href="http://www.ethertonlaw.com/">www.ethertonlaw.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Patentcenter [<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Watt, Rachel S. via Patentcenter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 6, 2023 3:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Randall Svihla <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Watt, Rachel S. <<a href="mailto:Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com">Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>EBC doesn\u2019t know, maybe that\u2019s new. But now I\u2019m wondering if that is my version of Word that inserted the timestamp. I feel a bit silly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Randall Svihla <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 6, 2023 5:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Watt, Rachel S. <<a href="mailto:Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com">Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: USPTO timestamp<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:solid #1F2146 3.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;background:red'><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:white'>External Email - Use Caution </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hi, Rachel</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Obviously they are using GMT. Why are they using GMT? The system they are using to check the DOCX document for errors must be running on GMT. Maybe it's in the UK or Ireland? Although I would think foreign export laws would prevent that. As far as how does it affect the filing date, who knows? Call the EBC and ask them.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Good luck.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Randall S. Svihla</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>NSIP Law</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Washington, D.C.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Watt, Rachel S. via Patentcenter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 6, 2023 4:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> users of Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Watt, Rachel S. <<a href="mailto:Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com">Rwatt@hodgsonruss.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I\u2019m filing an application in docx format. Looking at the USPTO feedback document, their timestamp on their comments is 5 hours ahead (I\u2019m in EST).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><img border=0 width=376 height=119 style='width:3.9166in;height:1.2416in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image004.png@01DA116F.2A193CB0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Is this an issue? What if I was filing at 11:00 pm EST?<o:p></o:p></p><p><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><br> This message may contain confidential information that is protected by the attorney-client privilege or otherwise. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, copying, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If this message has been received by you in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. 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