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    <p>Right -- so if you modify it to say &quot;Practitioner Substitute of
      &lt;Name of USPTO form&gt;&quot; than you have technically removed all
      text identifying it as a USPTO form because all that text now
      identifies it as a practitioner form that substitutes for the
      USPTO form ...<br>
      I called and checked on this years ago with the Office, and since
      then have seen it multiple times -- something like &quot;Practitioner
      Generated &lt;xyz&gt; form substitute for &lt;USPTO form
      number&gt;&quot;<br>
      For safety, I suppose you can also just block out the form number.</p>
    <p>Perhaps more to your point, you'd need to block out the OMB
      number / statement.</p>
    <p>When I've modified forms, I've normally just re-built them in a
      WORD document leaving out all the USPTO language except a note
      that this form is a substitute for USPTO Form Number XYZ.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2023 11:29 AM, Randall Svihla
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Malgun Gothic&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&quot;if
              all text identifying the form as an Office form is
              removed&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Malgun Gothic&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Malgun Gothic&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">
                  Patentcenter
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">&lt;patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
                    </span></b>Timothy Snowden via Patentcenter<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                  Friday, November 10, 2023 12:00 PM<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                  Timothy Snowden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:timothy@thompsonpatentlaw.com">&lt;timothy@thompsonpatentlaw.com&gt;</a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [Patentcenter] Issue Fee Transmittal - Certificate
                  of Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Good
                point James --&nbsp;</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">You
                can also just modify the top to say &quot;Practitioner
                Substitute of &lt;form&gt;&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Then
                it's no longer an Office form.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">On
                11/10/2023 10:47 AM, James E. Lake via Patentcenter
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remember to revise per 37 CFR
                1.4(d)(5)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">\u201c(5) Forms. The Office provides
                forms for the public to use in certain situations to
                assist in the filing of correspondence for a certain
                purpose and to meet certain requirements for patent
                applications and proceedings. Use of the forms for
                purposes for which they were not designed is prohibited.
                No changes to certification statements on the Office
                forms (e.g., oath or declaration forms, terminal
                disclaimer forms, petition forms, and nonpublication
                request forms) may be made. The existing text of a form,
                other than a certification statement, may be modified,
                deleted, or added to, if all text identifying the form
                as an Office form is removed. The presentation to the
                Office (whether by signing, filing, submitting, or later
                advocating) of any Office form with text identifying the
                form as an Office form by a party, whether a
                practitioner or non-practitioner, constitutes a
                certification under § 11.18(b) of this chapter that the
                existing text and any certification statements on the
                form have not been altered other than permitted by
                EFS-Web customization.\u201d</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">James Lake</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Flash
                    <a href="mailto:guyvmann@flash.net" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;guyvmann@flash.net&gt;</a>
                    <br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                    Friday, November 10, 2023 8:10 AM<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">
                      patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                    James E. Lake <a href="mailto:jel@randalldanskin.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                      &lt;jel@randalldanskin.com&gt;</a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                    Re: [Patentcenter] Issue Fee Transmittal -
                    Certificate of Service</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="red"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:red">[External Email]</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Or you can just use a PDF
                  editor to type onto it what it needs to say. &nbsp;That\u2019s
                  how I fill out the old 85b anyway.&nbsp;
                  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I haven\u2019t been correcting
                    it for this issue until now, but I think I may
                    start. No step to add something new.&nbsp;
                    <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Guy Vincent Manning
                        <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:guyvmann@flash.net" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">guyvmann@flash.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">On Nov 9, 2023, at
                          11:18 AM, James E. Lake via Patentcenter &lt;<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">\ufeff
                          <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If you need to use
                          the 85b the PTO sent to you with the NOA
                          instead of using the Patent Center Web 85b,
                          then I suggest you prepare and upload
                          PTO/SB/92 Certificate of Mailing or
                          Transmission under 37 CFR 1.8 as a separate
                          paper since the certificate on the old 85b is
                          incorrect. SB92 expressly includes Patent
                          Center.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">James Lake</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
                              Patentcenter &lt;<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                  Behalf Of </span></b>Randall Svihla
                              via Patentcenter<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                              Wednesday, November 8, 2023 1:24 PM<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                              <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">
                                patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                              Randall Svihla &lt;<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                              Re: [Patentcenter] Issue Fee Transmittal -
                              Certificate of Service</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="red"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:red">[External
                          Email]</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Fairness,
                            schmerness.&nbsp; You can bet if your livelihood
                            depends on it, the USPTO will throw you
                            under the bus.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
                                Patentcenter &lt;<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                    Behalf Of </span></b>Dale
                                Quisenberry via Patentcenter<br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:20 PM<br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                Timothy Snowden &lt;<a href="mailto:timothy@thompsonpatentlaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">timothy@thompsonpatentlaw.com</a>&gt;;
                                <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>;
                                Sarah Adriano &lt;<a href="mailto:sbadriano@adrianoassociates.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sbadriano@adrianoassociates.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                                Dale Quisenberry &lt;<a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dale@quisenberrylaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                Re: [Patentcenter] Issue Fee Transmittal
                                - Certificate of Service</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks,
                            Tim.&nbsp; I think what you and Sarah are saying
                            are good arguments, and may very well be
                            winning arguments.&nbsp; As I think about it
                            further, it would seem unfair for the USPTO
                            to take the position that using the USPTO\u2019s
                            own form would not constitute an effective
                            certificate, especially once we arrive in a
                            Patent Center only world.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Dale</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">C.
                                Dale Quisenberry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Quisenberry
                                Law PLLC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">13910
                                Champion Forest Drive, Suite 203</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Houston,
                                Texas 77069</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">(832)
                                680.5000 (office)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">(832)
                                680.1000 (mobile)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">(832)
                                680.5555 (facsimile)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.quisenberrylaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.quisenberrylaw.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="1" face="Arial" color="#685c53"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#685C53;font-weight:bold">This
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:
                                  </span></font></b><font size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Timothy
                                  Snowden &lt;<a href="mailto:timothy@thompsonpatentlaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">timothy@thompsonpatentlaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
                                    </span></b>Wednesday, November 8,
                                  2023 at 3:11 PM<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:
                                    </span></b><a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>
                                  &lt;<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;,
                                  Sarah Adriano &lt;<a href="mailto:sbadriano@adrianoassociates.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sbadriano@adrianoassociates.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:
                                    </span></b>Dale Quisenberry &lt;<a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dale@quisenberrylaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
                                    </span></b>Re: [Patentcenter] Issue
                                  Fee Transmittal - Certificate of
                                  Service</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I would argue
                                  a similar point to Sarah. However, for
                                  elimination of doubt (because Dale's
                                  view is arguable, and probably the
                                  most 'to the letter accurate'), I
                                  modify our Certificate to say &quot;...
                                  EFS-Web/PatentCenter ...&quot; </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Part of the
                                  confusion is that USPTO has been a bit
                                  imprecise whether they refer to
                                  PatentCenter as an iteration of
                                  EFS-Web or a different system. I take
                                  the view that it's an iteration at
                                  least as far as the legal framework
                                  for the Certificate of Service goes. I
                                  know the USPTO hasn't updated it, but
                                  it seems like the only other option is
                                  to Fax / USPS, and that's clearly not
                                  the intent ... so clearly the
                                  practical intent of the USPTO is that
                                  PatentCenter is the next iteration of
                                  the USPTO's electronic filing system.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Not sure if
                                  that stream of consciousness helps,
                                  but there it is...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 11/8/2023
                                  2:48 PM, Dale Quisenberry via
                                  Patentcenter wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sarah,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">My
                                  view is that the certificate below
                                  would not be effective for Patent
                                  Center unless it was changed from
                                  EFS-Web to Patent Center.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Dale</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">C.
                                      Dale Quisenberry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Quisenberry
                                      Law PLLC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">13910
                                      Champion Forest Drive, Suite 203</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Houston,
                                      Texas 77069</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">(832)
                                      680.5000 (office)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">(832)
                                      680.1000 (mobile)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">(832)
                                      680.5555 (facsimile)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.quisenberrylaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.quisenberrylaw.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:
                                        </span></font></b><font size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Sarah Adriano
                                        <a href="mailto:sbadriano@adrianoassociates.com" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;sbadriano@adrianoassociates.com&gt;</a><br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
                                          </span></b>Wednesday, November
                                        8, 2023 at 2:31 PM<br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:
                                          </span></b>users of
                                        Patentcenter <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
&lt;patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:
                                          </span></b>Dale Quisenberry <a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
&lt;dale@quisenberrylaw.com&gt;</a><br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
                                          </span></b>RE: Issue Fee
                                        Transmittal - Certificate of
                                        Service</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Dale,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">I
                                      saw EFS-web as a generic
                                      electronic filing system with
                                      species therein.&nbsp; Filing via
                                      patent center was just another
                                      form of an electronic filing
                                      system via the web.&nbsp; Comments?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Thanks,
                                      Sarah</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
                                          Patentcenter [<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>]
                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                              Behalf Of </span></b>Dale
                                          Quisenberry via Patentcenter<br>
                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                          Friday, November 03, 2023 4:30
                                          AM<br>
                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                          users of Patentcenter <a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
&lt;patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                                          Dale Quisenberry <a href="mailto:dale@quisenberrylaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
&lt;dale@quisenberrylaw.com&gt;</a><br>
                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                          [Patentcenter] Issue Fee
                                          Transmittal - Certificate of
                                          Service</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Listmates,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">You
                                      have probably already noticed
                                      this, but just in case:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">The
                                      \u201cCertificate of Mailing or
                                      Transmission\u201d on the Part B \u2013
                                      FEE(S) TRANSMITTAL form for
                                      transmittal of an Issue Fee does
                                      not list transmission to USPTO via
                                      Patent Center.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">This
                                      form won\u2019t work come November 8,
                                      agree?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Dale</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">C.
                                          Dale Quisenberry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Quisenberry
                                          Law PLLC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">13910
                                          Champion Forest Drive, Suite
                                          203</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Houston,
                                          Texas 77069</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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