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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I never made it past the initial \u201cfollow-on submission\u201d screen. There are two different bugs:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>If the correspondence address contains a non-English character, PatentCenter can\u2019t handle it. It throws an error message \u201cSubmission contains invalid character(s) in: ads.correspondenceAddress.name, ads.correspondenceAddress.name2, ads.correspondenceAddress.street.\u201d Try 35/515,646, Confirmation No. 8251<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>In other cases, the error message is \u201capplicationNumberText not matching with DB entry. confirmationNumberText not matching with DB entry.\u201d Try 35/515,642, Confirmation No. 6772.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I do agree though, that there are other cases originating outside the US where filings are possible. 35/515,641, Conf. No. 8742 for example works. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Axel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='mso-ligatures:none'> Carl Oppedahl <carl@oppedahl.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 November, 2023 09:01<br><b>To:</b> patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] EBC: You need to fax us in order to use PatentCenter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just now I tried to file a paper in a Hague application that originated outside the US and is not associated with a USPTO customer number. Actually I tried it in several cases that fall into this category.<span style='mso-ligatures:none'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i>In each case, Patent Center did not block me.</i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Well, I did not actually try to click "submit". But it allowed me to create a saved submission. It did not block me from creating a saved submission.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At what point did you find that Patent Center blocked you? Was it at the point of plugging in the application number and confirmation number? Or was it at the point of clicking "submit"?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/13/2023 5:35 PM, Axel Nix via Patentcenter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Just tried filing a paper in a Hague application that originated outside the US and is not associated with a USPTO customer number. Didn\u2019t work. PatentCenter apparently now checks that a customer number is associated with an application and rejects any filing if there is none. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Me: Please advise how to file papers in application 35/515,xxx<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>EBC: You aren't able to file documents in this application because your customer number isn't associated in this application and there isn't a POA.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Me: Thanks. I should be able to act in a representative capacity under 37 C.F.R. 1.34 without a power of attorney.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>EBC: Without the customer number being associated to the application you won't be able to access it in Patent Center. This isn't a glitch<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Me: How can I file a power of attorney if I need a power of attorney to file the power of attorney?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>EBC: In order to associate the customer number to the application you need to <b>fax</b> (571-273-8300)form AIA/122. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I couldn\u2019t have made this up\u2026 but I guess that is what happens if EBC is no longer allowed to answer \u201cuse EFS-Web\u201d the answer becomes \u201cfax us.\u201d <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>