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<p>Yes, there is still a way. A half-competent programmer (yes I
realize we are assuming a fact not in evidence) could take any
case that is in Central Docket and look to see how it is
classified. And could then do a lookup in the class-to-art-unit
table. And then could do a look up in the art-unit-to-pendency
table. And then we would have the FOAP, with the exact same math
result as one would have gotten under the old workflow.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2023 9:11 AM, Randall Svihla
via Patentcenter wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
reason First Action Prediction was not working in EFS-Web
is that new applications are no longer assigned to an Art
Unit immediately after classification.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>Rather, they are parked in OPAP - Central Docket,
so there is no way to determined a First Action Prediction
based on the Art Unit the application will be examined in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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S. Svihla<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Law<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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D.C.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">
Patentcenter
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Kurt
VanVoorhies via Patentcenter<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 10:03 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Kurt
VanVoorhies <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vortekx@centurytel.net"><vortekx@centurytel.net></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
[Patentcenter] Problems with First Action Prediction;
Link to Patent Center reference guide<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ironically,
in the Patent Center FAQs page, topic "</span></font><b><font
size="2" face="Segoe UI" color="#333333"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke;font-weight:bold">Where
can I find the Patent Center user guides?</span></font></b>",
the link to <font size="2" face="Segoe UI" color="#333333">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">the </span></font><a
href="https://www.uspto.gov/patent/docx"
moz-do-not-send="true"><b><font size="2" face="Segoe UI"
color="#0076a3"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#0076A3;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-alt:none windowtext 0in;padding:0in;background:white;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none">Patent
Center reference guide</span></font></b></a><font
size="2" face="Segoe UI" color="#333333"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white"> page.</span></font>
links instead to the docx documents page. I called the EBC
this morning, and they escalated this issue. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
also inquired as to how to find First Action Predictions
for new applications (the reason for my seeking the user
guide), and was informed that this was a known issue and
presently not possible. The agent had no knowledge of
whether this feature will be reinstated, but instead
advised that one would need to contact the Examiner for
this info.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Kurt
VanVoorhies<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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