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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Judi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks for your thoughtful response. U.S. provisional applications are never published (although their contents can sometimes be publicly viewed, e.g., if cited in a non-provisional).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The widow is not an inventor in this instance, so changing the inventor is not an option. Ive looked into submitting a corrected ADS to identify the inventor as deceased and
identify the widow as applicant (by way of being legal representative), but I need PoA to file the ADS. Perhaps success is possible if they are filed simultaneously, but I think I need to prove the widows legal status as representative of the estate. Submitting
this type of legal document on the record has some potential downsides, I believe.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">-Jim Larsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Attorney<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Goldberg, Judi <jgoldberg@leydig.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 2:02 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com <patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jim Larsen <jim@larsen-ip.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Jim,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Sorry youre dealing with this. I thought provisional applications were made public after expiration. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I suggest maybe treating it as a non-expired utility application, and file a supplemental marked-up ADS and request to change the applicant or the inventor (whichever is appropriate),
adding the deceased after the current inventors name and adding his widow as a legal representative.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The form used to change the inventor reads:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I would include the POA and a 373(c) statement with the suppl ADS and Request to Change. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hope this works!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">(IF not, I suggest contacting one of the ombudsman.
<a href="https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/support-centers/patents-ombuds-office/contact-patents-ombuds">
https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/support-centers/patents-ombuds-office/contact-patents-ombuds</a>.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Judi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Larsen via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 14, 2023 2:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jim Larsen <jim@larsen-ip.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentcenter] Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I've been trying for weeks to get access to a (expired) provisional application on behalf of the widow of the deceased inventor, as there is interest in the likely subject matter,
given the inventor's renown in his field. There was (as far as we know) no attorney, no co-inventor listed in the file, and, obviously, no available record of the application. I have appropriate documentation identifying the widow as a legal representative
and have filed a power of attorney signed by same. This resulted in an Unauthorized Signature response from the PTO. After speaking with people in the inventor's assistance center, USPTO legal office, and certification section I'm no closer to getting access
as each PTO contact's respective passing the buck has yet to identify someone that actually knows how to gain access. I have only the inventor name and the application number to go on. Any ideas how to get access?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#201F1E">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#201F1E">-Jim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#595959">James C. Larsen<br>
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<p><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5496">Larsen IP PLLC</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">p: 425.298.6846</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">e:
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#201F1E"><a href="mailto:jim@Larsen-IP.com" target="_blank">jim@Larsen-IP.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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