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 of the dead inventor\u2019s application mailed.&nbsp; We were advised that electronic access (i.e., via Patent Center) would not be possible by any means.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<br>
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-Jim<br>
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James C. Larsen<br>
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Larsen IP PLLC<br>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">David Boundy &lt;DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jim Larsen &lt;jim@larsen-ip.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>David Boundy &lt;DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com&gt;, patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com &lt;patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentcenter] Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">That's new information!&nbsp;&nbsp; If you file paper or FAX you don't need the 4-digit confirmation number.&nbsp; But if you filed by EFS-Web, then you've got the confirmation number, so that doesn't matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">OPLA or Office of Petitions are plausible places to go for help. &nbsp; Inventor Assistance Center and Application Assistance Unit aren't worth the electricity bill to power your phone for the music-on-hold time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Do you have any kind of doc that shows that the widow is the legal representative?&nbsp; Can you excerpt down to a small doc that you're willing to make public and that will satisfy a PTO person?&nbsp; Half the first
 page, the one relevant paragraph, and the signature block oughtta do it. &nbsp; Redact down to that and attach that to your Power of Attorney or 3.73 statement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 5:31\u202fPM Jim Larsen &lt;<a href="mailto:jim@larsen-ip.com">jim@larsen-ip.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<br>
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-Jim<br>
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James C. Larsen<br>
Attorney<br>
Larsen IP PLLC<br>
p: 425.298.6846<br>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">David Boundy &lt;<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com" target="_blank">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 2:02 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jim Larsen &lt;<a href="mailto:jim@larsen-ip.com" target="_blank">jim@larsen-ip.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentcenter] Access to provisional application of deceased inventor - how?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 of the deceased inventor, as there is interest in the likely subject matter, given the inventor's renown in his field.&nbsp; There was (as far as we know) no attorney, no co-inventor listed in the file, and, obviously, no available record of the application.&nbsp; I
 have appropriate documentation identifying the widow as a legal representative and have filed a power of attorney signed by same.&nbsp; This resulted in an Unauthorized Signature response from the PTO.&nbsp; After speaking with people in the inventor's assistance center,
 USPTO legal office, and certification section I'm no closer to getting access as each PTO contact's respective passing the buck has yet to identify someone that actually knows how to gain access.&nbsp; I have only the inventor name and the application number to
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="color:#201F1E">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="color:#201F1E">-Jim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><b><span style="color:#595959">James C. Larsen<br>
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<p style="margin:0in"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2F5496">Larsen IP PLLC</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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