<div dir="ltr">Ashley, <div>I think this is a species of the same issue I had in September. It refused to allow either the uploaded ADS or the web ADS if I used the proper priority. <div>The agent first suggested I use EFS (I pointed out (i) that would mean starting over and (ii) what was he going to say in a month or so?) then suggested using the third option. That one did work. <div>Tim <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Tim Ackermann</div><div style="font-size:small">The Ackermann Law Firm</div><p><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">E: <a href="mailto:tim@ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank">tim@ackermannlaw.com</a></span><br><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">P: 817.305.0690</span><br>
<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">F: 214.453.0810</span><br>
<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">W: <a href="http://ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank">ackermannlaw.com</a></span><br>
<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">O: 1701 W. Northwest Hwy. Ste. 100</span><br>
<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"> Grapevine TX 76051</span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 5:44\u202fPM Campbell, Ashley via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg5345596970996255672">
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<p class="m_5345596970996255672MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks Judi and everyone else that has replied!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_5345596970996255672MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The EBC had the following unhelpful response: \u201c</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I would like to let you know that I highly
suggest you select the third option for no ads or attach ads. If you have any questions, please give us a call back.\u201d<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">As mentioned in previous threads, if we use the third option then we have to manually input what could be a lot of data and the potential for error increases.
I replied to the EBC asking specifically what \u201cOK\u201d means, but I don\u2019t expect a response.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Goldberg, Judi via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 28, 2023 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent Center. <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Goldberg, Judi <<a href="mailto:jgoldberg@leydig.com" target="_blank">jgoldberg@leydig.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] ADS upload issues - OK message<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I\u2019ve also gotten that weird message before \u2013 I usually detach the document and reattach it, figuring something was wrong (size, embedded font, etc.) since the pulldown on the right
of the document doesn\u2019t give any options except to remove the document. It usually works the second time; if not, I reprint to PDF to make sure it\u2019s flattened and then reattach, and then it works fine. I think somebody hiccupped when planning that error
message and they forgot to go back and fix it. Whatever. As usual, it\u2019s up to us to figure out how to work within the USPTO\u2019s weird set-ups. Somehow we make it work.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Judi<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Judith S via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 28, 2023 5:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent Center. <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Judith S <<a href="mailto:judith.a.s@gmail.com" target="_blank">judith.a.s@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] ADS upload issues - OK message<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've had that notice before, usually when I uploaded something to a saved submission. I don't know what it means either. The red X plus the OK gives rather mixed messages. I ended up logging out & back in, and the second time I uploaded
I didn't get that message.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Next time I may test submitting it with the OK sign, but this was an application and I didn't want to end up with problems if it meant something wasn't being properly recognized by the system.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:50\u202fPM Campbell, Ashley via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi all,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Has anyone seen this message come up? This only seems to happen with 371 applications, but it doesn\u2019t give you any information on the problem. Just a
passive aggressive \u201cOK\u201d </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,71,187)">Ashley Campbell
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Senior Patent Training & Practice Support Manager</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">4200 Republic Plaza | Denver, CO 80202-5638</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">(303) 592-2231</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patent Lawyer via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 28, 2023 10:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent Center. <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>; Randall Svihla <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com" target="_blank">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Patent Lawyer <<a href="mailto:patentlawyer995@gmail.com" target="_blank">patentlawyer995@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] ADS upload issues (again)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In a previous and unrelated discussion, I noted that the PTO is limiting the assignee name to 50 characters.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also noted that I have at least 3 clients with names longer than 50 characters.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I suggest you check the length of the assignee name.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Patentcenter Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 11:54 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Randall Svihla <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com" target="_blank">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>>, Patentcenter Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Victoria OConnor <<a href="mailto:Victoria@brakehughes.com" target="_blank">Victoria@brakehughes.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentcenter] ADS upload issues (again)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Randall - No. The screenshot of the error I posted below was the only bit of information it gave me. I assume maybe it was one of the foreign addresses, but the fields in the
ADS form itself took the full address so why would uploading it be an issue? The addresses weren\u2019t all that excessively long. I\u2019ve filed longer addresses in the past, so I have no idea.
<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will play with it more when I get a few minutes to see if I can work out whatever caused the issue. I\u2019ll touch base if I find anything. I just didn\u2019t have the time to sort out
the USPTO\u2019s random non-helpful errors this morning. <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">
\U0001f60a</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Victoria<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 28, 2023 10:57 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Victoria OConnor <<a href="mailto:Victoria@brakehughes.com" target="_blank">Victoria@brakehughes.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ADS upload issues (again)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hi, Victoria</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Does it say which field has too many characters?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Best regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Randall S. Svihla</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">NSIP Law</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Washington, D.C.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Victoria OConnor via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 28, 2023 10:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> users of Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Victoria OConnor <<a href="mailto:Victoria@brakehughes.com" target="_blank">Victoria@brakehughes.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentcenter] ADS upload issues (again)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good morning all \u2013 I can\u2019t recall if we came across this issue and had a fix yet, so my apologies if this is a repeat issue. I uploaded a USPTO Application Data Sheet form and
got the following error pasted below. What does that mean? The ADS has its own internal character limit on addresses and such and everything seems to be in order. I don\u2019t know what that error could mean or how to begin to rectify the issue. If anyone has
info that would be great. Otherwise, I guess I will load it under the \u201cNo ADS and Attached ADS \u201c option and pray they don\u2019t mess it up. There are quite a few inventors with foreign addresses for this one. Maybe that is the issue? Regardless, foreign addresses
should work in the ADS without issue. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wish the errors provided would give helpful insight as to what the specific problem is with the document. It basically just says, \u201cyou have an issue, good luck\u201d. It wastes so
much time with trial and error trying to read their minds. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Victoria<u></u><u></u></p>
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