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<p class="MsoNormal">A question regarding the following message:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B;background:#E7F6F8">The following documents need to be attached:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B"><br>
<span class="pleft-2"><span style="background:#E7F6F8">RCEX - Request for Continued Examination (RCE)</span></span><br>
<span class="pleft-2"><span style="background:#E7F6F8">QPIDS.REQ - Quick Path Information Disclosure Statement)</span></span><br>
<span class="pleft-2"><span style="background:#E7F6F8">IDS - Information Disclosure Statement</span></span><br>
<span class="pleft-2"><span style="background:#E7F6F8">In addition, the RCE submission needs to be attached</span></span></span><span style="mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Check on the first three. But isn’t the “RCE submission” the IDS (inclusive of references that are not US patents or pgpubs)?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Normally, the “RCE submission” could be an amendment, an IDS… But with QPIDS, isn’t it just the IDS?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Nielson via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 14, 2023 8:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> users of Patentcenter <patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Scott Nielson <scnielson@outlook.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentcenter] QPIDS Bugs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">I found two bugs while filing a quick path IDS (QPIDS). By way of background, a QPIDS must be filed as part of a web-based petition to withdraw from issue. In my case, a patent number
had been assigned so it was a web-based petition to withdraw from issue with assigned patent number. On to the bugs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">The QPIDS Document Description Cannot be Found by Typing Keywords in Document Description Field</span></u><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">After uploading the QPIDS IDS form, I tried to find the correct document description by typing various keywords such as "quick" "path" "IDS," etc. in the document description field.
Nothing showed up. I eventually decided to use "Transmittal Letter."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">Later as I was manually shuffling through the document descriptions while dealing with the second bug below, I stumbled across "Quick Path Information Disclosure Statement." Yeah,
it's there, but you must select it manually from the drop-down menu. Typing in keywords will not work. Apparently, when using keywords to find document descriptions, it searches through a list of descriptions that is different than those that are available
manually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">Cannot Include Patent Term Adjustment Statement</span></u><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">The PTO says in the QPIDS faqs (Q23
<a href="https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/qpids_faq.pdf" title="https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/qpids_faq.pdf">
link</a>) that "applicants are encouraged to include a statement under 37 CFR 1.704(d)
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so as to avoid a reduction in patent term adjustment pursuant to 37 CFR 1.704(c)(10)."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="contentpasted3"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black;background:white">As some of you may recall, a recent rule mandated that patent term adjustment statements be coded with the correct document description
or they might not be given effect. </span></span><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">Given this and the statement in the faqs, you would think it would be possible to use this document description when filing a petition to withdraw form
issue in Patent Center. Well, you would be wrong! Only certain document descriptions are allowed and "Patent Term Adjustment Statement under 37 CFR 1.704(d) filed with an IDS-PTA.IDS" is not one of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">The document description shows up as being available when searched by keyword as shown in the following image:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">But if you select it, you will receive this error:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">I ended up filing the patent term adjustment statement separately from the petition to withdraw from issue. I'm crossing my fingers that won't mess things up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black">All software has bugs, but Patent Center is taking it to a new level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:#1F3864">Scott Nielson</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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