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<p class="MsoNormal">I have raised this before and was told by the PTO that it will show the sponsored person’s name unless the filer makes a change to the package.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Feigelson via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 7, 2023 4:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent Center. <patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dan Feigelson <djf@iliplaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] Old Bug, New Gripe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 10:59 PM Alan Taboada via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I don’t recall seeing this discussed here and it is not listed in the Patent Center Trouble Ticket page.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In one frequently used filing workflow for patent practitioners, we have a sponsored administrator or paralegal upload documents to
Patent Center on the responsible practitioner’s behalf and save those submissions for review and ultimate filing by the practitioner. I know others may have variations on this theme, but we like the idea that the person whose signature is on the papers or
who is otherwise responsible for the filing is the same person who reviews the documents and ultimately presses the submit button in Patent Center. The role of the admin/paralegal in this scenario is to upload and save the documents only, and not to file.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">However, when we log in to Patent Center and view the saved submissions (which is another issue in that we can see any submission under
any customer number we are associated with and not just the saved submissions intended for us, as it used to be in EFS-web), and review and file the desired documents, the filing receipt incorrectly states, “FILED BY: [the person who uploaded and saved the
files and not the person who viewed the saved submission and actually pressed the submit button thereby filing the documents].”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I think it goes without saying that the filing receipt should show the person who filed the documents in any field entitled “FILED BY.”
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To repeat a common refrain, “in EFS-web…,” the filing receipt actually showed you the person who pressed submit. And if that person
was the sponsored admin or paralegal, the filing receipt showed their name AND the name of the sponsoring party. Specifically, the Electronic Acknowledgement Receipt from EFS had a “Filer:” field and a “Filer Authorized By:” field.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The USPTO may not care about such things, but from a law firm perspective, it is useful to know such things (and for such things to
be accurate).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">Not just from a law firm perspective. If for some reason there's a problem, and someone needs to attest to having filed the document, that false statement by the PTO is going to cause headaches. It's inexcusable
for the PTO to say "filed by" X when in fact it was filed by Y. But then we also have things like status being indicated as "issued" when the issuance will only occur in a few weeks, or "existing submissions" when they mean "follow-on submission in existing
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