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<p>This is a very good point. When we send faxes nowadays, we have
two ways to do it:</p>
<ul>
<li>Use a physical fax machine that is connected to an Analog
Telephone Adapter that uses T.38 signaling to our VOIP service
provider (called VOIP.ME). We have programmed our inbound fax
number into the physical fax machine so that it gets sent to the
receiving fax machine (e.g. the USPTO). The result has been
that the USPTO server sends a fax receipt back to us by fax.</li>
<li>Go to the web site of VOIP service provider (called VOIP.ME)
and upload a PDF or TIF file and type in the fax number to send
the fax to, and what "caller ID" fax number we want to say it is
from. And we select from a drop-down list our inbound fax
number that we have with our VOIP service provider. The result
has been that the USPTO server sends a fax receipt back to us by
fax.</li>
</ul>
<p>The thing is, the most recent time I did either of these things
to send a fax to the USPTO Central Fax Number was maybe three
months ago. And as I say, I would not rule out the possibility
that the "new ways of working" people in the CIO's office of the
USPTO decided that they are smarter than everybody else and can
swap out one fax service provider for another, assuming that we
paying customers will never notice. <br>
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<p>The responsible thing would, of course, have been to run the old
one and the new one in parallel for some beta-test time period. <br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2023 4:14 PM, Patent Lawyer
via Patentcenter wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The PTO used to send a fax acknowledgment
to the fax number <u>
from which the incoming fax was received</u>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe the PTO still does that. But maybe
that number (<u>from which the incoming fax was received</u>)
is probably a fax number of your web fax company.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So maybe the PTO sent an acknowledgment fax
there. Or maybe web faxing does not provide a number to the
recipient. Or maybe the PTO does not send acknowledgment
faxes anymore. But my guess is that your acknowledgment fax
went to your web fax company’s number. Good luck.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Patentcenter
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> on behalf
of Patentcenter Patentcenter
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Patentcenter Patentcenter
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, December 18, 2023 at 5:38 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Patentcenter Patentcenter
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Sandra L Etherton
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sandra@ethertonlaw.com"><sandra@ethertonlaw.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Patentcenter] fax receipt from Patent
Office?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had to file a petition to pay a late
maintenance fee <u>by fax</u> today since a) Patent Center
didn’t have the right fees in “Calculate Fees” and b)
couldn’t file an ePetition because I wasn’t entered as POA
in the file and instead was submitting a new POA. I faxed to
571-273-8300 as suggested by EBC.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I got a fax receipt from my webfax
company that the fax went through successfully, but I
haven’t received a fax receipt from the Patent Office. In
the old days the PTO faxed-back a receipt almost
immediately. It’s been several hours now and no PTO receipt
yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does the Patent Office still send fax
acknowledgements that a fax was received? If so, how long
does it take?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sandra<o:p></o:p></p>
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L Etherton</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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