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Look at 16/278,112 Reply of June 16, 2023, Exhibits A and B starting at pages 19 and 26.  These are 103, but they're issues you could use for 102 as well (ordinary meaning of claim terms, interpretation of references).<br></div><div><br></div><div>A "declaration" has a penalty-of-perjury paragraph. An affidavit has that, plus notarized signature.<br></div><div><br></div><div>A declaration/affidavit is only good on an issue of <b>fact</b>, not an issue of <b>law</b>, so be sure you're carefully targeting an affidavitable issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Some issues are really easy and safe to affidavit, some are <b>really</b> dangerous. In general, the safe ones are where the examiner has all the same information the declarant has. The danger with a declarations is where there's some possibility that during discovery some doc will show up that contradicts the declaration.  Then you are s-c-r-e-w-e-d.</div><div><br></div><div>Be sure the affiant is testifying from first hand knowledge. A case I was peripherally involved with <i>eSpeed, Inc. v. Brokertec USA, LLC</i>, 480 F 3d 1129 (Fed. Cir. 2007) <a href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11175138575348740529" target="_blank">https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11175138575348740529</a> -- the dopey patent attorney got an affidavit from the inventor/CEO on an issue where the real knowledge resided with the company's software engineers. Lots of bad things happened -- the CEO didn't get the facts exactly right, it turned into a waiver of privilege, etc etc. Don't do that. Only get declarations on <i><b>first</b></i> hand personal knowledge.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If a declarant is testifying as an expert, couch everything as "in my opinion." Opinions are unassailable facts.  No lawyer can get inside your declarant's head to disprove that that was the declarant's opinion on the day the declaration was signed.</div><div><br></div><div>If you keep these messages somewhere, search for "espeed brokertec"  It's my favorite case to illustrate the "don't do's" for declarations, so I cite it every time I write this essay.  You may find an old copy of this essay with one or two more tips.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:42 PM Andrew Berks via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>If anyone has filed a declaration under 37 CFR 1.130 to overcome a rejection under 35 USC §102(a)(1) or §102(a)(2) (or has seen such a declaration) (see also MPEP 2152.06), please send me a serial no. that I can pull from Patent Center. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="136"><col 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