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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What about submitting the SB/17 form indicating the fees you intend to pay? I know it isn’t a PCT form, but that’s what we use when PC doesn’t list a fee. We will just put what we are paying in the “other” field
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Although this would only work if you are using a deposit account. Not sure how you would handle for credit card payments :/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>McBean, Paul via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For users of the PCT and ePCT. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <pct@oppedahl-lists.com>; users of Patentcenter <patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> McBean, Paul <pmcbean@bakerdonelson.com>; David Boundy <DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] [Pct] Another big-as-a-barn can't-get-an-application filed bug in Patent Center?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Frustrating as Patent Center can be, the thing I find most frustrating is that something like David’s “bug” could go away tomorrow with absolutely no explanation.  I don’t have a better suggestion than Cathy’s right now, but if you wait
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Pct <<a href="mailto:pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Boundy via Pct<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> users of Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>; for users of the Patent Cooperation Treaty <<a href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com">pct@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Boundy <<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pct] Another big-as-a-barn can't-get-an-application filed bug in Patent Center?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">A couple weeks ago when nothing was working, using Patent Center, I tried to file a PCT application with an ePCT zip file.   Nothing was working (I think that was the day Patent Center just crashed, seconds after
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The application papers are in the Patent Center file wrapper, but the "Application Information" page is not populated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I need to pay the fees.   I check all the boxes and -- the fee for "International Filing Fee (first 30 sheets) with ePCT zip file" isn't in the selectable lsit.  The only fee is " INTERNATIONAL FILING FEE (FIRST
 30 PAGES - FILED ELECTRONICALLY WITHOUT EPCT OR PCT-EASY .ZIP FILE)" (which isn't me), and the listed fee is pretty clearly wrong, based on my RO101 from ePCT.  I have goofed around a bit to try to get the right fee calculation, no can do.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I have about 10 more days before the fees must be paid.  Should I just wait until the application gets to WIPO, and then pay ePCT?   Or send a paper check?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I have not called EBC.   I don't need them to tell me that Patent Center is misbehaving and that they can't do anything about it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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