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Even though my aia0083 was granted, something is definitely amiss. I
actually received two letters (via snail mail) after 3 weeks. One is
"Notice of Acceptance of Power of Attorney", saying "The Power of
Attorney in this application is accepted...",which I did not file
for obvious reasons. The other is "Notice Regarding Change of Power
of Attorney", saying "The withdrawal as attorney in this application
has been accepted..." The case was removed from my docket when I log
in.<br>
<br>
I am not sure it is a bug sort to speak. It felt like some
policy/rule changed. Before the new version comes out, it is simply
removed from Patent Center. Whoever is carrying out actual
executions in the background appears to be doing stuff he/she is not
quite sure of. I would expect the USPTO to make a very public
announcement on this type of changes.<br>
<br>
Jeanette Nakagawa<br>
<br>
ps: aia0083 does have an email entry right after telephone. I used
the form good through 09/30/2025.<br>
<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards
_______
Jeanette Meng Nakagawa Ph.D
US Patent Agent / Reg #: 67,745
孟琤 博士 美国专利代理人
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ipatentapplication.com">http://www.ipatentapplication.com</a>
Tel: +1 858-666-8258 （中英文）</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/24 5:29 PM, Sharon Rubin via
Patentcenter wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I initiated
this thread in December. After we were unable to file the
ePetition, I filed the aia0083, and one month later received
a “Notice Regarding Power of Attorney” saying “the power of
attorney in this application is not accepted because there
is no alternate correspondence address, either in the
application file or the request. Please provide a
correspondence address to which further correspondence can
be directed.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="Default"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Of
course, I hadn’t actually filed a power of attorney. I had
filed a “</span><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">REQUEST
FOR WITHDRAWAL AS ATTORNEY OR AGENT AND CHANGE OF
CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS”</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> which
is a petition.
<b> </b></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">And
naturally I had provided the applicant’s address for further
correspondence. So the notice made no sense.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I called
the Office of Data Management, and the explanation was that
the applicant address I had put down was not the address on
the ADS (the applicant had moved.) So in order to withdraw
as Attorney of Agent of Record, we would need to file a
corrected ADS and obtain a corrected filing receipt.
</span><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">So
we would need to spend even more unremunerated time to file
a petition to withdraw from a case which we are withdrawing
from because the client lacks the funds to continue.</span><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">As you
know, when one previously withdrew using the ePetition, none
of this was necessary. The attorney certified to which
address mail should be forwarded, and withdrawal was
immediate. If it was good enough then, why is it different
if you are uploading the paper petition? (The ePetition
also had a place to list an email address for the applicant,
which the aia0083 lacks.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">Sharon
Rubin</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-ligatures:none"> Patentcenter
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>J Meng Nakagawa PhD ?? ?? via
Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 14, 2024 5:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips
and tricks about Patent Center.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> J Meng Nakagawa PhD </span><span
style="font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-ligatures:none">孟琤</span><span
style="mso-ligatures:none">
</span><span
style="font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-ligatures:none">博士</span><span
style="mso-ligatures:none">
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jmeng@ipatentapplication.com"><jmeng@ipatentapplication.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] ePetition Request for
Withdrawal as Attorney or Agent of Record STILL not
working<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Hi
Bruce, I couldn't find it either and just filed aia0083.pdf
via Patent Center on Apr 5, 2024, and received paper grant
on Apr 29, in snail mail. I didn't receive any electronic
notification. After I received the paper grant, I can see it
via Patent Center since the case is published. I guess one
way to keep checking is to log in and see if it has been
removed from your docket.<br>
<br>
Jeanette Nakagawa<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre>Regards<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>_______<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Jeanette Meng Nakagawa Ph.D<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>US Patent Agent / Reg #: 67,745<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">孟琤</span> <span
style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">博士</span> <span
style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">美国</span><span
style="font-family:"Microsoft JhengHei",sans-serif">专利代理人</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://www.ipatentapplication.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.ipatentapplication.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Tel: +1 858-666-8258 <span
style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">（中英文）</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/14/24 3:56 PM, Bruce Young via
Patentcenter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I went
looking for the ePetition to Withdraw as Attorney of Agent
of Record and I cannot find it at all in Patent Center. Am
I just blind or has it disappeared.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">From the
Home page, I click on the petitions icon and get three
columns, “PETITIONS-PENDING,” “PETITIONS-ALLOWED,” and
“PETITIONS-ISSUED”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Under
PETITIONS-PENDING there are only 2 options listed:
“Petition to make special based on age” and “Petition for
Revival of Abandoned Patent Application….”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">When I
click on the Petitions pull-down menu, I get the same
options.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">NO
ePetition to withdraw as Agent.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Nothing
under Existing Submissions that is remotely related
either.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I found
the thread from January which talked about it not working
properly, but I cannot even find the ePetition at all,
which doesn’t seem like the issue that was happening in
January.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Is that
ePetition just GONE from Patent Center?
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">-Bruce
Young</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">(712)
541-9822</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-ligatures:none"> Patentcenter
<a
href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sharon Rubin via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 3, 2024 5:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips
and tricks about Patent Center.
<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sharon Rubin <a
href="mailto:Sharon@gjip.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><Sharon@gjip.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] ePetition Request
for Withdrawal as Attorney or Agent of Record STILL
not working</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It’s now > 2 weeks later, and the
auto-granted ePetition to Withdraw as Attorney is still not
working (yes, we have a POA on file.) At least EBC admits
that it is a known problem with no current solution. (So we
will have to spend even more unremunerated time to file a
petition to withdraw from a case which we are withdrawing
from because the client lacks the funds to continue.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m a little surprised that no one else
on this listserv has mentioned this issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="mso-ligatures:none">Sharon Rubin</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-ligatures:none"> Patentcenter <<a
href="mailto:patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sharon Rubin via Patentcenter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 19, 2023 5:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sharon Rubin <<a
href="mailto:Sharon@gjip.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Sharon@gjip.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentcenter] ePetition Request for
Withdrawal as Attorney or Agent of Record not working</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have been attempting to file an
ePetition Request for Withdrawal as Attorney or Agent of
Record pursuant to 37 CFR 1.36 since last Thursday. (We
have a recognized POA on file.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have tried in Chrome, Firefox and
Edge. After completing the form, the attorney can insert
the signature in the signature box, but there are no boxes
below “First name”, “Last name” and “Registration number”
to fill in, which is likely why nothing happens when the
“Continue” box is pressed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"><img
style="width:6.0312in;height:2.75in"
id="Picture_x0020_9"
src="cid:part1.G5BFTX7v.rJFOPJAP@ipatentapplication.com"
alt="A screen shot of a computer
Description automatically generated" class="" width="579" height="264"
border="0"></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">We have
discussed the situation twice with EBC, which escalated
the request last Thursday, but still has no answer as to
why this is happening. Today’s agent was aware of one
other person who had reported the same problem. I presume
that we can upload, mail or fax a petition to withdraw and
wait a few months for it to be granted, but we’d like to
be relieved ASAP.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Has
anyone else successfully used an ePetition in Patent
Center to withdraw as attorney recently? Has anyone had
the same problem we are experiencing and figured out a
solution? (Needless to say, we never had a problem with
this in EFS-Web.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Sharon
Rubin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"><br>
<br>
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