<div dir="ltr"><div>What competent programmer codes so that there could be a sensitivity to dialect of English? That's house-of-cards programming.</div><div>
<div><br></div><div>Just relying on my gut feel as a programmer from all
those years ago -- I agree with (what I infer Carl's view to be) --
this is grasping at straws, looking where the light is good not where
the keys are lost, unlikely to have anything to do with it. I can't say for sure, but this looks like a wild goose chase.<br></div>
</div><div><br></div><div>And if that's really the disease, the treatment doesn't make sense. The PTO has limited recognition admits in Canada, U.K., India, etc. How can it be that their native dialect of English isn't accepted? And that it's been fine for ten years, and suddenly goes bad on one day in October?
The Paperwork Reduction Act requires an agency information collection activities to be "<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">implemented in ways consistent and compatible,
to the maximum extent practicable, with the existing reporting and
recordkeeping practices of those who are to respond</span>." The PTO doesn't have authority to say "You can't use Firefox" or "You have to set your browser settings in a way that messes up 98% of your work."<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 11:04\u202fAM Carl Oppedahl via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Thank you very much for posting this.</p>
<p>But what's annoying is the cluelessness of the USPTO people on
this. My browser settings are never anything other than American
English. And yet I, too, encounter the programming mistake that
leads to constant browser refreshes.<br>
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<div>On 10/8/2024 8:32 AM, James Katz via
Patentcenter wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">See <a href="https://www.uspto.gov/system-status/20241007-patent-center-constant-browser-refresh-issue-due-browser-language-setting" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-GB">I am trying to make use
of Patent Center just now (4:10 AM
ET). No joy.
<br>
It is impossible to do anything at
Patent Center just now. It appears
<br>
as a blank screen.<br>
<br>
If I do a "view source" on the blank
screen, I learn that the USPTO <br>
system did actually serve up fifteen
thousand characters of HTML, that <br>
get rendered only as whitespace.<br>
<br>
Predictably, there is no mention of
this outage at <br>
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I tried entering Patent Center
"sideways", you know, by going and <br>
logging in at MyUSPTO and then
clicking around to try to get into
Patent <br>
Center. Nope. Same blank screen.<br>
<br>
In my logged-in status, I am able to
see normal-looking screens in <br>
Financial Manager and Ass Center and
MyUSPTO. But again and again, <br>
nothing from Patent Center other
than a blank screen.<br>
<br>
Oops. Now after a dozen tries,
Patent Center is rendering with
visible <br>
material on the screen. But it's
the "jumpy" Patent Center, the one <br>
that waits until I have uploaded a
document or two, maybe selected a
fee <br>
to pay, and then at a time when I do
not have my fingers on the keyboard
<br>
or hand on a mouse, Patent Center
jumps to its main action screen and
my <br>
e-filing session has disappeared.
The function that is meant to be a <br>
successor to EFS-Web is flaky right
now.<br>
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