<div dir="ltr">Thank you to all who have been reporting the Patent Center headaches and the workaround to keep refreshing. The logout problem is not limited to Patent Center, but also seems to apply to the Certified Copy Center as well. I used the same refresh/re-login technique to finally get to the page where I could order a trademark abstract of title.<div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Michael Brown<br>Michael J Brown Law Office<div>354 Eisenhower Parkway</div><div>Plaza I, 2nd Floor, Suite 2025<div>Livingston, NJ 07039<br><div><a href="mailto:michaeljbrownlaw@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaeljbrownlaw@gmail.com</a></div><div><a href="mailto:michael@mjbrownlaw.com" target="_blank">michael@mjbrownlaw.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.mjbrownlaw.com" target="_blank">www.mjbrownlaw.com</a> <br>+1 973-577-6300 fax +1 973-577-6301<br></div><div>Google Voice +1 973-637-0358</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 2:13\u202fPM Goldberg, Judi via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7664251042317667251">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">To add a bow on top, I just opened
<span class="m_-7664251042317667251SpellE">PatentCenter</span> and found that I\u2019m still logged in from yesterday.<span>
</span>Yesterday, I was still logged in from Sunday.<span>
</span>I\u2019m afraid to log out \u2026\u2026<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent Center. <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] constant browser refreshes> (was Patent Center is broken?)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>What competent programmer codes so that there could be a sensitivity to dialect of English? That's house-of-cards programming.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Just relying on my gut feel as a programmer from all those years ago -- I agree with (what I infer Carl's view to be) -- this is grasping at straws, looking where the light is good
not where the keys are lost, unlikely to have anything to do with it. I can't say for sure, but this looks like a wild goose chase.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>And if that's really the disease, the treatment doesn't make sense. The PTO has limited recognition admits in Canada, U.K., India, etc. How can it be that their native dialect of
English isn't accepted? And that it's been fine for ten years, and suddenly goes bad on one day in October? The Paperwork Reduction Act requires an agency information collection activities to be "implemented in ways consistent and compatible, to the maximum
extent practicable, with the existing reporting and recordkeeping practices of those who are to respond." The PTO doesn't have authority to say "You can't use Firefox" or "You have to set your browser settings in a way that messes up 98% of your work."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>Thank you very much for posting this.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>But what's annoying is the cluelessness of the USPTO people on this. My browser settings are never anything other than American English. And yet I, too, encounter the programming mistake that leads to constant browser refreshes.<u></u><u></u></p>
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It is impossible to do anything at Patent Center just now. It appears <br>
as a blank screen.<br>
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If I do a "view source" on the blank screen, I learn that the USPTO <br>
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Center. Nope. Same blank screen.<br>
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Oops. Now after a dozen tries, Patent Center is rendering with visible <br>
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