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<p>Right - because it's due on presentation (see below). We have 4
months to (re)submit the priority claim per 37 CFR 1.55.<br>
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<p>"For an application filed on or after the effective date of this
final rule, payment of the §\u20091.17(w) fees is required at the time
a prompting benefit claim ( <em>i.e.,</em> a benefit claim that
causes the EBD of the later-filed application to be more than six
or nine years earlier than its actual filing date) is presented in
the later-filed application. If the prompting benefit claim is
presented at the time of filing the later-filed application, the
applicable §\u20091.17(w) fee will be due at filing. If the prompting
benefit claim is presented at a later time, the applicable
§\u20091.17(w) fee will be due concurrently with the presentation of
the prompting benefit claim. If the later presentation of the
prompting benefit claim is by way of a petition for acceptance of
an unintentionally delayed benefit claim under §\u20091.78(e), the
applicable §\u20091.17(w) fee will be due in addition to the petition
fee under §\u20091.17(m)."<br>
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<p>My understanding is that the NTFMP should run separately but I
also haven't received NTFMPs at this point. Of course, the NTFMP
is practically worthless after the 4 months because you now have
lost the oldest benefit claim and so likely have your own earlier
application as prior art.</p>
<p>And, of course, under most fact patterns that I can think of, you
couldn't intentionally wait more than 4 months and then petition
for an unintentionally delayed priority claim.<br>
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<p>Another way of stating what Nichole is saying is that essentially
the priority claim is rejected and we have 4 months from filing to
(re)present it with the appropriate fee.<br>
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My understanding was that we have 4 months from the date of filing
to pay the CAF. No notice; it\u2019s on the applicant as the fee is
part of a valid priority claim.
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<p class="MsoNormal">My understanding is that you are to
pay the CAF fee ( 6 or 9 years if applicable) when
filing the application. The CAF will not be listed on a
NTFMP and there is no late period to file the CAF.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You will have to file the petition.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good Morning Listmates. I have a
few questions. If an application is filed (with
claims to benefits for priority more than 6 or 9
nine years) and is filed WITHOUT any fees (i.e. a
no-fee continuation application) , I understand that
the priority claim will not be listed on the filing
receipt. However, it does not appear that we are
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not presented with the applicable 37 CFR 1.17(w)
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not just the CAF)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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month period to pay the late priority fee without
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to accept a delayed claim to priority?<o:p></o:p></p>
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