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<p>Right - because it's due on presentation (see below). We have 4 months to (re)submit the priority claim per 37 CFR 1.55.<br>
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<p>"For an application filed on or after the effective date of this final rule, payment of the §\u20091.17(w) fees is required at the time a prompting benefit claim (
<em>i.e.,</em> a benefit claim that causes the EBD of the later-filed application to be more than six or nine years earlier than its actual filing date) is presented in the later-filed application. If the prompting benefit claim is presented at the time of
filing the later-filed application, the applicable §\u20091.17(w) fee will be due at filing. If the prompting benefit claim is presented at a later time, the applicable §\u20091.17(w) fee will be due concurrently with the presentation of the prompting benefit claim.
If the later presentation of the prompting benefit claim is by way of a petition for acceptance of an unintentionally delayed benefit claim under §\u20091.78(e), the applicable §\u20091.17(w) fee will be due in addition to the petition fee under §\u20091.17(m)."<br>
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<p>My understanding is that the NTFMP should run separately but I also haven't received NTFMPs at this point. Of course, the NTFMP is practically worthless after the 4 months because you now have lost the oldest benefit claim and so likely have your own earlier
application as prior art.</p>
<p>And, of course, under most fact patterns that I can think of, you couldn't intentionally wait more than 4 months and then petition for an unintentionally delayed priority claim.<br>
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<p>Another way of stating what Nichole is saying is that essentially the priority claim is rejected and we have 4 months from filing to (re)present it with the appropriate fee.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">My understanding was that we have 4 months from the date of filing to pay the CAF. No notice; it\u2019s on the applicant as the fee is part of a valid priority claim.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Good Morning Listmates. I have a few questions. If an application is filed (with claims to benefits for priority more than 6 or 9 nine years) and is filed WITHOUT any fees (i.e. a no-fee continuation application) , I understand that
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