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<p>I would prefer not to have to try this because it requires paying
a fee that one ought not to have to pay.</p>
<p>But you are right to raise this issue. Back when the system was
EPAS, it accepted PCT application numbers regardless of whether
they were or were not already in some USPTO system.</p>
<p>But now, I bet the clerks in the Assignment Branch are using the
same system we are stuck with (Ass. Center). And so Ass. Center
would puke on the PCT number regardless of whether it is a USPTO
clerk trying to enter it, or the end user (you or me) trying to
enter it.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/10/2024 4:41 PM, Randall Svihla
via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hi,
Carl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">But
will the USPTO actually record it, or will they issue a
Notice of Non-Recordation saying that the non-US-RO PCT
application does not appear in their records?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Randall
S. Svihla<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">NSIP
Law<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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D.C.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">
Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Carl
Oppedahl via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:36 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> For
patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
legal advice. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Carl
Oppedahl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Patentpractice] Assignment Center -- stored
contacts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sure
you can do the recordation by usps postal mail at the
USPTO.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This
requires paying a fee.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">On
2/10/2024 4:00 PM, Allen Richter (allenr--- via
Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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the following (worst case?) scenario:
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
color="#002060"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
color="#002060"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Because
of the bug I cannot record within the “three months
window” an assignment for a PCT that was filed with an
Non-US Receiving-Office. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri" color="#002060"><span
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael
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Re: [Patentpractice] Assignment Center -- stored
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Sigh. Hopefully they will fix
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style="font-size:11.0pt">On Feb 10, 2024, at
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif">When
I first tried Assignment Center, I noticed the
"Stored contact information" field and wondered
where this contact information is stored. After
some poking around, I found an address book on
the MyUSPTO account page. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black;background:white">I
entered my address and a few client addresses. I
then went back to Assignment Center to see if
they would show up. Surprisingly, my contact
information showed up as an option in the drop
down list on the correspondence information
page. When I selected it, my contact information
was auto-populated as the correspondence
information.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif",serif;color:black;background:white">I
then proceeded to the conveying party page and
my contact information also appeared in the drop
down list but none of the client contact
information appeared. The same thing happened on
the receiving party page. It would auto-fill my
information but the client information in my
address book was nowhere to be found.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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ended up deleting that assignment recordation
entry and ever since then, the stored contact
information section has been blank. I still have
the same entries in my address book, but nothing
shows up in the drop down list for stored
contact information.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Assignment Center -- stored contacts<o:p></o:p></p>
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filed my first assignments using Assignment
Center. As Carl’s blog has noted, it’s
impossible to create “stored contacts” that you
can subsequently select when filing a new
assignment.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Has
anyone heard when the USPTO is planning on
rolling out this functionality? That would go
a long way in my mind to making AC more
usable. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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