<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I like David\u2019s recommendation on checking the constraints for use of form letters. For information on the 7.27 form letter, see the form letters section of MPEP: <a href="https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9095-Form-Paragraph-Chapter.html" class="">https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9095-Form-Paragraph-Chapter.html</a>.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 11, 2024, at 5:59 AM, David Boundy via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" class="">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">This isn't a well-framed question. We have neither the written explanation nor access to the examiner's past neural state.
We can't answer what the examiner's mental state might have been months ago. We don't know whether the alternative
§ 103 covers the weak spot in the
§ 102 or whether the § 103 brings in something else entirely.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Doctrine of Equivalents is <b class="">only</b> for infringement, never for unpatentability/invalidity.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You don't tell us whether this is based on Form Paragraph ¶ 7.27 of some other construct. An examiner is only permitted to use ¶ 7.27 in specified circumstances, and each requires a specific showing so you know what's going on. Look up
Form Paragraph ¶ 7.27
the MPEP Index to see all the places it's discussed and see what that gives you.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
Where the reference teaches multiple
distinct embodiments, and the examiner is trying to assemble a
Frankenstein's monster out of incompatible parts, then even within a single reference, the examiner still has to show "motivation to combine."<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Depending on the examiner's rationale, Jeff's and Judith's approach could be correct -- if you show a missing element for
§ 102 then that same element is missing for § 103. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But without a well-framed question we can't help you.<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 9:44\u202fPM Stanley H. Kremen via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" class="">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Colleagues:<br class="">
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Examiner rejects claim as anticipated by single prior art reference in under 35 USC 102 or obvious over the same reference under 35 USC 103. <br class="">
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The 102 rejection is understandable, and it can be overcome by showing that the single reference does not teach every element of the claim. <br class="">
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However, how do we deal with the obviousness rejection? There is only a single reference. There is no explanation of the basis for 103. Is it the examiner relying on the Doctrine of Equivalence?<br class="">
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