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One clarification, I said there are 25 EU countries. There are actually 27 EU countries. However, only 25 of them have entered into an agreement to participate in the unitary patent system. Of those 25, only 17 have formally completed the requirements and currently
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<div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> Scott Nielson <scnielson@outlook.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> for users of the Patent Cooperation Treaty <pct@oppedahl-lists.com>; For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Allowed EP patent -- opt between Unified Patent or country-by-country validation?</span>
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<div style="direction: ltr;"><span style="font-family: "Aptos Serif", Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">This website provides a pretty good breakdown of the costs.
<a href="https://www.epo.org/en/applying/european/unitary/unitary-patent/cost" id="OWAee073e41-9c2f-7920-5c75-d57e8abb7b75" class="x_OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
Cost of a Unitary Patent | Epo.org</a></span></div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;"><span style="font-family: "Aptos Serif", Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The key things to keep in mind are: (1) a unitary patent only covers (a) EU countries that have (b)
agreed to participate in the unitary patent system. GB is not an EU country so it is excluded under provision (a). There are 25 EU countries. Of those, 17 currently participate in the unitary patent system. If you get a unitary patent, it will only cover those
17 countries even if the others join later. See <a href="https://www.epo.org/en/applying/european/unitary/unitary-patent" id="OWAd79d616e-ca9a-3d4d-dcbe-299dd0221872" class="x_OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
Unitary Patent | Epo.org</a></span></div>
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Based on the cost estimate guide above, I generally only recommend a unitary patent if the client is interested in coverage in at least four of the 17 countries currently participating in the unitary patent system.</div>
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In your case, if the client wants coverage in only DE, GB, and FR, then I would go the conventional validation route in those three countries. Also, my recollection is that DE and FR do not require full translations of the patent application for conventional
validation (versus Spain, which does), but you should double check that with the EP associate.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;"><span style="font-family: "Aptos Serif", Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">There is another factor to consider which is court jurisdiction. Unitary patents are subject to the
exclusive jurisdiction of the Unified Patent Court. Conventional EP patents are subject to the jurisdiction of the UPC
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but the applicant can opt out so the patent is subject to the jurisdiction of national courts. </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of David Boundy via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> for users of the Patent Cooperation Treaty <pct@oppedahl-lists.com>; For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Boundy <DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Allowed EP patent -- opt between Unified Patent or country-by-country validation?</span>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">I am now facing the choice for the first time of an allowed EP patent, and how to validate. Opt in for a single European Unitary Patent, or validate in the big countries (DE GB FR probably).</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Questions</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;"> -- fee schedule is here <a href="https://www.epo.org/en/legal/guide-up/2022/uppg_a_v.html" data-auth="Verified" id="OWAe8c8d6dd-b611-5512-1c58-55eb0c08a236" class="OWAAutoLink">
https://www.epo.org/en/legal/guide-up/2022/uppg_a_v.html</a> When they say "10th year" is that 10th year from filing, or 10th year from EP allowance? The yardstick is "published in the European Patent Bulletin" -- does that happen at 18 months, or at allowance?</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;"> -- when <span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
GB quit the EU club, they quit the Unitary Patent club too, right? </span> So if I opt for Unitary Patent, I still have to validate in GB, right?</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;"> -- this application was prosecuted in English. So to validate Unitary, we have to translate into one other language
<a href="https://www.epo.org/en/legal/guide-up/2022/uppg_b_ii_4.html" data-auth="Verified" id="OWA295ee328-9f1c-feea-c3f4-6d683e4eb513" class="OWAAutoLink">
https://www.epo.org/en/legal/guide-up/2022/uppg_b_ii_4.html</a> For country-by-country validation, translate for all</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Does anyone know of a cost calculator?</div>
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