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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Just a clarification, Rick’s edit attributed text to me that I did not write. Thanks.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Doreen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Neifeld via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 16, 2024 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rick Neifeld <rneifeld@neifeld.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Third-Party exparte Challenge to Pending Application<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Keep in mind there are similar 3rd party submission procedures in the major offices. See for example slides 2-9 in
</span>"<a href="https://www.neifeld.com/pubs/Neifeld_IEEE_10-19-2012.pdf" target="_blank">Company Perspectives, Procedures and Best Practices in View of the AIA</a>" Presented by Rick Neifeld at IEEE-USA, Arlington, VA, October 19, 2012.
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<p>Best regards, Rick Neifeld, Ph.D., Patent Attorney<br>
Neifeld IP Law PLLC<br>
9112 Shearman Street, Fairfax VA 22032-1479, United States<br>
Office: 1-7034150012<br>
Mobile: 1-7034470727<br>
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and <a href="mailto:richardneifeld@gmail.com">richardneifeld@gmail.com</a><br>
Web: <a href="https://neifeld.com/">
https://neifeld.com/</a><br>
This is NOT a confidential communication of counsel. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this email and notify the sender that you did so.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/8/2024 2:46 PM, Doreen Trujillo via Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">not followed the success rate with these things in terms of affecting prosecution. If you submit the publications with an explanation of the relevance and the claims get allowed
anyway, you have probably made it harder for your client to invalidate the patent based on those same publications. And if you yourself appear as the attorney of record on your client's own patents, then if you're the one who makes the third-party submission,
the competitor will be able to more easily figure out who's behind the submission (which doesn't need to identify the real-party-in-interest, but only the party actually making the submission). So you might want to consider having a different attorney make
the filing. Or, you can go the tried-and-true route of bringing the publications to the attention of the applicant's attorney, who will in all likelihood then want to disclose the pubs in an IDS. The examiner make still allow the case, but there will be no
discussion in the record of the relevance, thus leaving an easier path to make such arguments yourself in subsequent adversarial proceedings.<o:p></o:p></p>
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