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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best regards,<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Feigelson via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 26, 2024 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dan Feigelson <djf@iliplaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] FW: Looking for a better understanding of how the patent system works?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you find odd, the PTO thinking it's competent to give advice about the patent process? Seems to be par for the course with Vidal - focus on things the PTO isn't qualified to do (apart from saying *how the PTO itself examines cases*,
 the PTO has no business giving advice to anyone, too many factors to take into account), and ignore the important stuff (like electronic filing of patent applications and assignments).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 6:13<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Doreen Trujillo via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">From the Public Engagement Partnership page:
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<p style="margin-top:0in;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B">“Meetings will have their specific agendas providing opportunities to:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Learn about the patent system and the USPTO’s practices and policies</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white;box-sizing:border-box">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Participate in panel discussions</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white;box-sizing:border-box">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Learn how read a patent and its parts. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white;box-sizing:border-box">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Learn how to submit third-party input on a patent application</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white;box-sizing:border-box">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Learn how to submit requests for reexamination of patents</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white;box-sizing:border-box">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Learn how to challenge patents after they are issued</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B">For more information about the USPTO's Public Engagement Partnership, <a href="https://gcfagjf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/cl/M2uNOIlVB6WYa6WGewRFY3oxjUwCkQa2O3bn3MUyCCo_vU_sglsHG23eEMJHH45IPLdSyWxCcckQPA2c0cWMDbNkIzHSxKZAd8x9kjPZakv0YpEm69-OA5XZFRrXjxh3AsYIi9k-14jMiaM06fA0YRWHSfOaffgveuYH3rNmLa1niSOSKJzBwE0TkmhEj3vfyOW4iNGrOCioQhxdR2Vsva9dS8angmudMV_Z8peLSirA9Lel2jWrDH9k-vBlubb4S4FY8pYs7yH3CAdGwWkJD6E7gq5swSc0yaYnfUUBoQYOmPF_m9V_g_LuIbGgayTiMZgCqtyhVGDnrpeDyfLM1p4-6MLJEu82SWIX7KiT0tE5ETN8cSvR_CFx1KpqiBBDaxKYsWpUsb7EQRhHb0hUSsWKjItVSbiCeaK2pxhOs1B72r9LgL8jGz4J-YDBEGxG6ZYCyI5A5Pg5s2Slvg" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#005EA2">read
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