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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2024 9:50 AM, Carl Oppedahl via
Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<p>Yes I have gone around and around with the Office of Public
Records on this.</p>
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<p>Over and over again I have ordered up a physical certified copy
of a US patent application in which color drawings were filed.
They are right there in SCORE. When I order the copy, I phone
up the OPR to emphasize that they need to use the SCORE drawings
when they prepare the physical certified copy.</p>
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<p>Over and over again, they play dumb and use only the poor
quality (halftoned, no color) drawings from IFW.</p>
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<p>Over and over again, I place followup calls to OPR to say the
certified copy was defective and can they send a new certified
copy that is not defective.</p>
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<p>I think the last five times I went through this bad movie with
OPR, only once out of five times did I end up with a
non-defective physical certified copy. <br>
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<p>The next thing you might thing</p>
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think<br>
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<p> is, maybe DAS would work better. But no, the electronic
certified copy that the USPTO makes available to DAS is also
defective. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2024 8:46 AM, Goldberg, Judi
via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Hi
Scott \u2013 do you know if there is a way to obtain a
certified copy of a US design application as filed which
includes color drawings?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We
got a rejection that the drawings in our foreign
application (color) didn\u2019t match what was filed in the US
because the drawings in the certified copy of the US
priority design application were in black and white.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The USPTO told me
they don\u2019t issue certified copies in color, but color
is/can be an important element of a design application.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Thanks
in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Judi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">
Patentpractice <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Nielson via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 15, 2024 6:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Oppedahl List [Patent Practice] <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Scott Nielson <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:scnielson@outlook.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><scnielson@outlook.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Design Patents
Granted in Color?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#B8312F">[External Email]</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">I
filed a design patent with non-vector drawings and
used the document description "Drawings-only black and
white line drawings." I rasterized the drawings before
filing so they were already in the format the USPTO
likes (1 bit black and white monochrome). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">The
USPTO entered an exact copy of the drawings I filed in
the Supplemental Content tab.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">When
the patent was granted, the PTO issued a "SCORE
Placeholder Sheet for IFW Content" stating that SCORE
contains a "Patent Grant with Color/Grayscale
Drawings."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">In
SCORE, there is a tab labeled "File type" "US Patent
Color"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">In
this tab in SCORE, I can download a copy of the patent
that is password protected and ostensibly would have
had color drawings if I had filed color drawings. It
appears that USPTO has implemented color drawings for
all design patents. If you file color drawings, there
will be a copy of the design patent in SCORE that
includes the color drawings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">This
also means that for each design patent, the granted
patent is published electronically in there different
formats:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">1.
the public pdf version available on PPUBS. This uses
the halftone drawings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">2.
the eGrant copy available in Patent Center that
includes a signed digital signature but is otherwise
unlocked. I'm not sure if this the halftone or
original drawings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">3.
the color copy in SCORE that includes copies of the
original drawings as uploaded by the applicant
including color. The pdf file is locked with password
protection and 128-bit encryption (it allows printing,
content copying, and content copying for
accessibility).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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suppose the takeaway is that for design patents, go
ahead and file in color. The USPTO will issue a copy
of the application in SCORE with color drawings (and
maybe the eGrant will have color drawings).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F3864">Scott
Nielson</span></b><span
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<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos Serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:black">801-660-4400</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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