<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I subscribe to Adobe to stay on the latest version of Pro. I wouldn\u2019t mind the subscription cost as much if the software was actually good (by comparison, I perhaps am in the minority that I like Microsoft Word).<div><br></div><div>But Acrobat is awful. The user interface is cryptic, and does not follow UI design principles in my estimation. </div><div><br></div><div>The one thing that Acrobat has going for it is that I haven\u2019t found another PDF editing program that permits you to import format data via XML in order to generate ADSs and IDSs. My docketing software generates the XML files, and then via the magic of AppleScript opens up the blank ADS or IDS form in Adobe and imports the XML to generate the form.</div><div><br></div><div> - Mike.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 19, 2024, at 8:17\u202fAM, Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Same here. See screen shot below. Acrobat Pro 2017 is installed on my notebook computer. I paid a one-time fee a long time ago for this software for a paid-up license. Adobe nowadays does not, for any amount of money, nowadays offer a way to get a new install of Acrobat that is (a) installed on your computer rather than in a cloud, and (b) can be paid for once and then you have a paid-up license.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I imagine that what is going on nowadays is that the USPTO people do not give a moment's thought to the consequences for users when they migrate to the newest version of Acrobat. Probably what happens is that the USPTO people then update some fillable official USPTO PDF form (for example the inventor declaration) using the newest version of Acrobat. And Adobe has hidden some code in the newest version of Acrobat that make it so that when the fillable official USPTO PDF form gets updated, this newest version of Acrobat leaves tripwires inside the fillable official USPTO PDF form. And then when a USPTO customer tries to make use of a version of Acrobat that is not the newest<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><b>paid-for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></i>version, it pukes or crashes or freezes.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Twenty years ago, when the USPTO launched EFS-Web, the USPTO's promise to users was that any and all functions of the fillable official USPTO PDF forms could be carried out by using the free version of Acrobat.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I am pretty sure the USPTO has by now betrayed that promise. I am pretty sure that the USPTO's revisions to its fillable official USPTO PDF forms have led to a situation where the only way to make use of the forms is by means of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><b>paid-for</b></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Acrobat, and not only that, the only way to make use of the forms is by means of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><b>recurring-cost</b></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Acrobat.<br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">On 4/19/2024 8:42 AM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:PH0PR20MB6084E6DCB1A03362D19ACC01CE0D2@PH0PR20MB6084.namprd20.prod.outlook.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Me thinks/suspects that Adobe might be intentionally causing \u201cissues\u201d so that users decide to update their software\u2026 which I think they offer<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u>subscription</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>only now.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Hence, I\u2019m trying to stick with my Adobe Acrobat Pro 2017 desktop software for as long as possible.</span></div></div><br></blockquote><span id="cid:part1.WECn9ICX.6itU017y@oppedahl.com"><1K9Bfw63mS7qhqor.png></span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Patentpractice mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="mailto:Patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/patentpractice_oppedahl-lists.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/patentpractice_oppedahl-lists.com</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>