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    <font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Dan "<span
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        has not" answers your question.</span><span
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2024 4:12 PM, Dan Feigelson via
      Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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        <div>Applicant filed first application in Israel, and plans to
          file in the US and only in the US claiming priority from the
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        <div>Israel is an 18-month-from-earliest-priority-publication
          country, so this set of facts would preclude filing a
          non-publication request at the USPTO.</div>
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        <div>But what if the applicant abandons its Israel application
          before publication? In that circumstance, can the applicant
          properly make a non-pub request in the US case?</div>
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        <div><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">The
              way 35 USC 122 is worded, the answer seems to be no:<br>
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              style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">122(b)(B))(i)  <span
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                an applicant makes a request upon filing, certifying
                that the invention disclosed in the application has not
                and will not be the subject of an application filed in
                another country, or under a multilateral international
                agreement, that requires publication of applications 18
                months after filing, the application shall not be
                published as provided in paragraph (1).</span>
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                          <div>I think the straightforward reading of
                            that paragraph is that it's not a question
                            of whether or not the application filed
                            abroad actually publishes, but whether or
                            not the law in the country where the
                            application was filed provides 18-month
                            publication of applications. And Israel
                            certainly fits that bill.<br>
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                          <div>I suppose one could take the position
                            that the country in question doesn't <i>require
                            </i>publication of applications at 18 months
                            unless those applications are still pending,
                            and therefore the invention disclosed was
                            not "the subject of an application filed in
                            another country...that requires publication
                            of applications 18 months after filing"
                            since the foreign application was
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                          <div>But I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig
                            to find out what the PTO or the courts say
                            about it. And making a non-pub request in an
                            application that claims foreign priority
                            from an application filed in an 18-month
                            publication country is begging the PTO to
                            call out the filer on this.<br>
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