<img width="1" height="1" src='https://gcfagjf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/op/ZNQbpVD3UNn54kyc7UijRwihAiHuGnLqjtlSfwy2lL_X8bEiqKeJfBGQCaNA5m7Z67kOMUaf4lR239F2nUKcWSQykuFiLUbPq61t6bGP_-Dy5VzXd_0FSPk2bphOUWE5ix3Dt0PEGUtuOiTCsH38rvLg2GSWaGEpbMF06SKNUGFxKR429R6sOohWOnptLdDb78PPF6aGH3M75Ue4dseEWZfApH7F-PulKfyz' /><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I agree. And we will not be making a non-pub request in the US case.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:31\u202fPM Rick Neifeld via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>On 4/30/2024 4:12 PM, Dan Feigelson via
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<div>Applicant filed first application in Israel, and plans to
file in the US and only in the US claiming priority from the
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<div>Israel is an 18-month-from-earliest-priority-publication
country, so this set of facts would preclude filing a
non-publication request at the USPTO.</div>
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<div>But what if the applicant abandons its Israel application
before publication? In that circumstance, can the applicant
properly make a non-pub request in the US case?</div>
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<div><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">The
way 35 USC 122 is worded, the answer seems to be no:<br>
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<div style="margin-left:40px"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">122(b)(B))(i) <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span></span>If
an applicant makes a request upon filing, certifying
that the invention disclosed in the application has not
and will not be the subject of an application filed in
another country, or under a multilateral international
agreement, that requires publication of applications 18
months after filing, the application shall not be
published as provided in paragraph (1).</span>
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<div>I think the straightforward reading of
that paragraph is that it's not a question
of whether or not the application filed
abroad actually publishes, but whether or
not the law in the country where the
application was filed provides 18-month
publication of applications. And Israel
certainly fits that bill.<br>
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<div>I suppose one could take the position
that the country in question doesn't <i>require
</i>publication of applications at 18 months
unless those applications are still pending,
and therefore the invention disclosed was
not "the subject of an application filed in
another country...that requires publication
of applications 18 months after filing"
since the foreign application was
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<div>But I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig
to find out what the PTO or the courts say
about it. And making a non-pub request in an
application that claims foreign priority
from an application filed in an 18-month
publication country is begging the PTO to
call out the filer on this.<br>
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