<div dir="ltr"><div>FWIW, I have also corresponded with Patrick the Ombudsman-Definitely-Not-AI and found him not very helpful/cordial.</div><div><br></div><div>In one e-mail re the notice to file missing parts I received because I filed a preliminary amendment to replace "___" with a filed application number in PDF format on the filing date, he wrote: "The rules are not debatable. The rules are the rules and are on our website. If I was filing for a patent application, I would surely submit everything I could in docx format."</div><div><br></div><div>I responded thusly:</div><div><br></div><div>"I actually don't think you would, if you were aware of the many documented risks filing in DOCX format creates for practitioners and applicants.<br><br>For example, did you know that practitioners have no way to prove that the DOCX file they uploaded is the DOCX file that the client approved? This is because the USPTO *THROWS THE UPLOADED FILE AWAY* and provides no audit trail of it.<br><br>The rules are supposed to be memorialized in a fixed form, such as the MPEP, not on web pages that can change on the fly."</div><div><br></div><div>Now I'm surprised I wasn't accused of yelling because I used all caps.</div><div><br></div><div>Patrick got his revenge in the end, though, because the USPTO sent the notice about petitioning from the NFMP due to filing a preliminary amendment in PDF format on the filing date literally the day after I paid the $400 penalty. (Sigh.)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Krista</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>------------------------------------------<br></div><div>Krista S. Jacobsen<br></div><div>Attorney and Counselor at Law</div><div>Jacobsen IP Law</div><div><a href="mailto:krista@jacobseniplaw.com" target="_blank">krista@jacobseniplaw.com</a></div><div>T: 408.455.5539</div><div><a href="http://www.jacobseniplaw.com" target="_blank">www.jacobseniplaw.com</a></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 10:03\u202fAM Goldberg, Judi via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Suzannah,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I am so frustrated with the Ombudsman - I thought they were retired patent examiners or patent attorneys, but guess
what?<span> </span>They are \u201cpromoted\u201d from the Application Assistance Unit which means that their advice is practically useless.<span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">So frustrating!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Be well,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Judi<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<<a href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Update: Going to shoot myself soon - Ombudsman<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Many requested updates\u2026 so\u2026<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The same day I reached out to the Ombudsman, I also filed a formal Status Request.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">So today, I received a call from the Publications Branch (I think in response to the Status Request).<span>
</span>The publications person told me that the reason the application went abandoned was that I did not submit an Issue Fee Transmittal.<span>
</span>I explained that under the QPIDS program I do not need to resubmit an Issue Fee Transmittal and that the Examiner incorrectly mailed the wrong form in response to the second QPIDS.<span>
</span>Hence the reason why the Petitions Office withdrew the holding of abandonment (note, different from reviving) and remanded to the Publications Branch for issuance.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Pubs person insisted that an Issue Fee Transmittal needs to be submitted or else the application will be abandoned again.<span>
</span>I again explained that I had previously submitted the Issue Fee Transmittal and under QPIDS, because prosecution was not reopened, I/Applicant need not do anything.<span>
</span>The previously paid issue fee is to be automatically applied without our even having to request such via submitting a new Issue Fee Transmittal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">He said he is going to mail a notice saying they need Issue Fee Transmittal within 2 months or else the application will be abandoned.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I told him no need, I will file an Issue Fee Transmittal within 30 minutes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">So, I refiled the previously filed Issue Fee Transmittal and appended thereto the page from the QPIDS Q&A saying one need not do anything if the Examiner does not
reopen prosecution, the petition to withdraw the abandonment that I previously filed, and the Petition decision that withdrew the holding of abandonment.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I did not change the date or anything on the refiled (previously filed) Issue Fee Transmittal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Who wants to take bets as to whether the Publications Branch accepts the copy of the previously filed Issue Fee Transmittal?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Who wants to take bets on whether the Publications Branch charges a second Issue Fee (which I then have to request a refund as the Issue fee was previously paid)?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Randall Svihla via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 4, 2024 6:43 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Going to shoot myself soon - Ombudsman<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The USPTO needs to reassign Patrick to the cleaning staff.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 3, 2024 6:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Boundy <<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com" target="_blank">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>>; For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Going to shoot myself soon - Ombudsman<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Jeeezus please help me\u2026 it won\u2019t stop.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">IT<span>
</span>is accusing me of yelling because I used ALL CAPS for emphasis (because the emails he sends are text only without format so I assume underlining and italics do not work on his end).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">And IT does not understand the QPIDS program and asserts that I withdrew the application from issue such that it is in the Examiner\u2019s domain/purview.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I firmly believe I am interacting with an AI Chatbot\u2026<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">See more below\u2026<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Suzannah K. Sundby <br>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:18 PM<br>
To: '<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</a>' <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">
PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</a><br>
Subject: RE: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">I was not yelling, but emphasizing because it seems you did not understand that the case is in the Office of Publications.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The withdrawal from issue is part of the QPIDS program.<span>
</span>The Examiner then proceeded to allow the application, and the original issue fee payment was to be automatically applied and the application then automatically allowed to issue.<span>
</span>See attached.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">It was after the allowance that the Office failed to apply the issue fee.<span>
</span>That is when the application went abandoned.<span>
</span>I then had to petition to withdraw the abandonment.<span>
</span>The petitions office granted, and sent the application to the Office of Publications, where the previously paid issue fee was to be automatically applied and the application allowed to issue.<span>
</span>This is where the application is stuck. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">If you still misunderstand and/or think I am being less than professional with you, then I need to speak with your supervisor and I request you provide me with your supervisor's contact information.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thank you,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Suzannah K. Sundby<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Reg. No. 43,172<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">From: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a> <<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:08 PM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">To: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Subject: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thank you for contacting the Patents Ombudsman Office. Please see response below.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">I am here to assist - not to be yelled at. CAPS is yelling. Review the 8-15-2023 Pet.auto document. Well well well what do we have there - a petition to withdraw from issue. It is signed by Suzannah.
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patrick <u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Going to shoot myself soon - Ombudsman<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"right 99.8% of the time." As usual -- PTO never distinguishes between data and sampling bias. If the applicant gives up and tries something different, well, the applicant didnt go back to the same PTO person and ask for yet another
correction, so the last information must have been correct.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All of the data about DOCX falls into the sampling bias category.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 3, 2024, 5:32 PM Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It continues\u2026 note it says \u201cI give the correct information 99.8% of the time\u201d.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WHO DOES THAT?!?!?<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>>
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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:29 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</a><br>
Subject: RE: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
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The application was NOT WITHDRAWN FROM ISSUE. Thus, the reason why PatentCenter indicates the application is IN THE OFFICE OF PUBLICATIONS (not with the Examiner).<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</a>>
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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:07 PM<u></u><u></u></p>
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To: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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Subject: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
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Thank you for contacting the Patents Ombudsman Office. Please see response below.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Once an application has been withdrawn from issue it does go back to the examiner.
<span style="background:yellow">I give the correct information 99.8% of the time.</span> You want to refer to the examiner.
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Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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Patrick<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Suzannah K. Sundby
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 3, 2024 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Going to shoot myself soon - Ombudsman</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>I have a case that went abandoned because of the USPTO failing to properly process/follow QPIDS procedures.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Petitions granted my petition and withdrew the abandonment.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>The case was returned to the Office of Publications to process the Letters Patent. It has been sitting in the Office of Publications since February 16th. Thus, I decided to contact the Ombudsman to help get this
case out of limbo so the patent is granted. Below is the back and forth correspondence (note most recent emails on top as usual email strings).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>I feel like I am having a conversation with ChatGPT and I am about to shoot myself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>>
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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:22 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</a><br>
Subject: RE: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The case is not in the domain/purview of the Examiner. PatentCenter indicates that it is in the OFFICE OF PUBLICATIONS, i.e., the division that prepares applications for PATENT GRANT.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">I am requesting that YOU as the Ombudsman poke the people in the OFFICE OF PUBLICATIONS to help get this case out of limbo and get the OFFICE OF PUBLICATIONS to act on the Letters Patent.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a> <<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 3:36 PM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">To: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Subject: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thank you for contacting the Patents Ombudsman Office. Please see response below.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">No issue notification has been sent out. You will want to check with the examiner to see if they will be sending out another Part B fees transmittal form. If the examiner says no you will
have to give it a few more months for the issue notification. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patrick<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patents Ombuds
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<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Sent: 5/3/2024 01:57:34 PM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">To: "<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Subject: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">I know the application is revived.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">It should be GRANTED by now, at least we should have received an Issue Notification by now.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a> <<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">To: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Subject: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thank you for contacting the Patents Ombudsman Office. Please see response below.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The application is revived.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patrick<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patents Ombuds<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Sent: 5/3/2024 11:53:13 AM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">To: "<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Subject: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">U.S. Application No.: [redacted] is allowed, i.e., the Petitions Office withdrew the abandonment February 20, 2024 (see attached), thus, this application should have been processed by the
patent grant publications division for grant.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">However, since February 20th, the patent grant publications division has yet to take any action.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thus, we need help getting this application processed for issuance of the Letters Patent.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Suzannah K. Sundby<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Reg. No. 43,172<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a> <<a href="mailto:PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PatentsOmbudsmanOffice@uspto.gov</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:32 AM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">To: Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:Suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Suzannah@canadylortz.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Subject: RE: Ombudsman Pilot Program - Request<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Thank you for contacting the Patents Ombudsman Office. Please see response below.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">We appreciate your reaching out to the Patents Ombuds Office.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Representatives of the Patents Ombuds would like to learn more about this E-mail request for assistance. Please reply to this email with precise information about how the Patents Ombuds outreach
can be of assistance to you.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patrick<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Patents Ombuds<u></u><u></u></p>
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