<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">This has not been my experience. I did two of these recently for the same attorney (the first client recommended me to the second client), and I never talked to the previous attorney. <div><br></div><div>We submitted an affidavit from the client about what happened (no notice of the maintenance fee coming due, no response to messages and emails once the client realized the patent had expired) and that was sufficient. What mattered is that the lack of action was inadvertent on the patent owner's part, not whatever was going on with the previous lawyer.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Jennifer<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 28, 2024, at 12:57\u202fPM, Randall Svihla via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Hi, Judith<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Have you checked to see if the prior counsel is dead, or perhaps incarcerated?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">You're going to have trouble with the one that has been expired more than two years.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Petitions is probably going to tell you need to get a statement from the prior counsel, which if course you wont be able to get.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>So you're going to need to provide a detailed explanation of your attempts to locate them and what might have become of them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Randall S. Svihla<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">NSIP Law<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Washington, D.C.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Judith S via Patentpractice<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 28, 2024 2:44 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Judith S <judith.a.s@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Patentpractice] Sample revival?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I have a small client that came to me with some abandoned cases they hope to revive. Their prior counsel has disappeared -- he has been completely unresponsive. So I cannot get anything from him. (I am filing a bar complaint, because this is unconscionable -- one was abandoned because of failure to respond to a Missing Parts for $80 for a late declaration surcharge.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">They thought they were coming to me with pending applications.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Some of the earlier filings have been abandoned for more than two years, and they requested that I file a petition to revive with a statement. I have not done that before, and was wondering if anyone had a good example or article about it since the new rules.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Judith<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Patentpractice mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/patentpractice_oppedahl-lists.com</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>