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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hi, Alan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Sometime the USPTO misreads the access code (B for 8 or 8 for B, etc.)
and submits the wrong access code,<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Sometimes the client gives you the wrong access code.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>By setting up tracking in the WIPO Digital Access Service, you can see these errors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Best regards.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Malgun Gothic";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Randall S. Svihla<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">
Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Alan Taboada via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 6, 2024 11:04 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Alan Taboada <ataboada@mtiplaw.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Patentpractice] venting - failure to download priority document from DAS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">In the past, we have submitted a corrected ADS with the DAS code provided.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">However, I would love to know if there is a better way to get this done as, in our experience, the USPTO has been failing
to retrieve priority applications much more frequently and with greater and greater hoops to be jumped through to try to get the USPTO to electronically retrieve the certified copy of the priority document. In some cases, we needed to resort to obtaining
a paper version of the certified copy ourselves to provide to the USPTO because the USPTO is incapable of obtaining it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Having seen Randall\u2019s email prior to hitting send, we will try that to see if that gives us better results (thanks,
Randall)!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0e2841" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patentpractice
<patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Krista Jacobsen via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 6, 2024 10:44 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Krista Jacobsen <krista@jacobseniplaw.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Patentpractice] venting - failure to download priority document from DAS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have the same question as Erin, and I cannot find an answer. Am I being dumb?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">An application ("FPA") was filed in a non-U.S. office, but one that participates in DAS.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A U.S. non-provisional application ("USNP") was filed and claims priority to FPA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The DAS code for FPA was not provided by the foreign associates before USNP was filed, so the DAS code does not appear in the field of the ADS.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The 4/16 deadline is approaching, and I need to request that the USPTO retrieve a certified copy of FPA from DAS. (Will also be submitting an interim copy in case they dawdle.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It seems like it should be simple to do this ("Hi, here's the DAS code for the application you already know about, please retrieve it"), and yet I cannot figure out how.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Years ago when I had to do this, I submitted an SB/38 form, which had an Option B that allowed the DAS code to be provided. But that form is dated 2017 and seems to have been abrogated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The current SB/38 form only "requests that the USPTO retrieve a copy of the following foreign priority application(s)
<u>that was not filed in a foreign intellectual property office participating with the USPTO in a priority document exchange agreement</u> ('Participating Office') but was submitted in an application subsequently filed with a Participating Office that permits
the USPTO to retrieve such copy." <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">That is not my situation. I just need to provide a DAS code so the USPTO can retrieve the application from another Participating Office.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Do I submit a "corrected" ADS to provide the DAS code in the foreign priority info section?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is there a different form to do this that I have missed? I looked through the list of forms provided by the USPTO and did not see anything that seemed applicable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">That form seems to only allow for obtaining from an EP/JP case in which the priority application was filed, right? It
does not mention obtaining the document from WIPO.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic">Please retrieve the foreign priority application identified in Column C, a copy of which is contained
in the EP or JP application identified in Columns A and B:</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">There does not appear to be an actual form for requesting the PTO pull the priority document via DAS? Am I missing something?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Apologies if this is a stupid question, maybe I need more caffeine.
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Randall Svihla via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 16, 2024 11:50 AM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Patentpractice] venting - failure to download priority document from DAS</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree this is incredibly frustrating! Especially as they do not notify you when they have successfully obtained it
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Also, when they have not properly downloaded it, the responsible parties at the PTO are less than helpful when trying
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Filed an application that claims priority only from a non-US application. Foreign priority app is in DAS (I checked with
WIPO). Provided the USPTO with the foreign application no. and the DAS retrieval code on an ADS at the time of filing. Got the filing receipt, and it acknowledges the foreign priority claim and that the DAS code was provided, and says that the USPTO "will
attempt to electronically retrieve" the priority doc. But of course, the p.d. isn't yet in the electronic file.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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