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<p>A reminder of the importance of using RO/IB whenever you can.</p>
<p>Even though the PCT Help Desk did not mention a security review,
I am confident that is the actual explanation for the delay.<br>
</p>
<p>The way you will know this for sure is when you receive the
letter telling you when they granted the FFL. I predict it will
turn out that the FFL got granted only a day or two before the
record copy got sent to the IB.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/6/2024 12:46 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:guyvmann@gvmlaw.net">guyvmann@gvmlaw.net</a> wrote:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sort of
related question: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Why would it
take the USPTO as RO almost <b><i>three months (and
counting) to transmit the IA to the IB</i></b>?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Details: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">IA filed May
7, 2024; IA number assigned by RO and appears in PC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Fees show
paid. Same $ amount shows in ePCT fee calc. sheet,
doubtless derived from the Request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">i.e., they\u2019ve been holding about
$ 3800 of client\u2019s money for nearly 3 months now<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Priority
claim to US provisional filed May 8, 2023 is recognized in
the PC record.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">PC\u2019s status
shows: \u201c</span><span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B;background:white">Application
Undergoing Preexam Processing 05/07/2024\u201d<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B;background:white"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Case shows
up in ePCT, with relevant info from Request (document sizes,
names, etc.) which was entered into ePCT to generate the zip
file, of course.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">But ePCT
says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">No IA number assigned (to be
assigned by RO)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Priority claim too late (but
don\u2019t worry about it if you filed the IA timely)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In other
words, the IB hasn\u2019t heard from the RO since I downloaded
the zip file.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">And, of
course, the expected ISA search and report (EPO) hasn\u2019t even
begun yet because the IB doesn\u2019t have what it needs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Are
others experiencing this kind of delay?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I\u2019m not
sure whose cage to rattle about this.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 6, 2024 11:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] group letter (was
venting - failure to download priority document from
DAS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>And we can remind them that as for the third, fourth, and
fifth "asks", this is Feature Request FR20 which the USPTO
received on July 6, 2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>And we can remind them that as for the sixth "ask", this is
Feature Request FR21 which the USPTO received on July 6, 2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>And we can remind them that as for the seventh "ask", this is
Feature Request FR22 which the USPTO received on July 6, 2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/6/2024 10:30 AM, Carl Oppedahl via
Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Recall that we already sent a group letter about DAS. You
can read about it here: <a
href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/letter-has-been-sent-to-the-commissioner-for-patents-about-das/"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://blog.oppedahl.com/letter-has-been-sent-to-the-commissioner-for-patents-about-das/</a>
. This was on February 22, 2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Oh and the new group letter can remind the reader that this
is already our second time asking for the end of the
foot-dragging. We asked for that in the group letter just
mentioned, more than four years ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Oh and yes there is a tenth "ask" namely that RO/US become
a Depositing Office in DAS. We asked for this in the group
letter of four years ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/6/2024 10:20 AM, Carl Oppedahl
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Yeah, a group letter would be a good idea. there would
be multiple "asks".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>First, can they stop the foot-dragging on the retrieval.
In present procedure, they always foot-drag the retrieval
until the case is getting released from the OPAP to the
Examining Corps. The correct behavior would be to
retrieve the ECC (electronic certified copy) without
delay, later the same day after the filer requests the
retrieval.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Second, can they eliminate the human hand-keyed aspect of
this. The ADS provides the DAS access code in
computer-readable characters. The USPTO should extract
the computer-readable DAS access code from inside the XML
of the ADS, and should auto-load these computer-readable
characters directly into the retrieval system. It is
stupid to flatten the ADS to an image, and then halftone
it, and then resample the DPI, and then ask a human being
at the USPTO to read it and hand-key it into the retrieval
system.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Third, can the USPTO please just take WIPO's example and
provide a USPTO click path (perhaps within Patent Center)
by which the filer can carry out the "action" (as in ePCT)
of requesting the retrieval. And then the click path will
do a real-time lookup in DAS and in real time, the click
path will display the results of the real-time lookup. In
this way, the filer can instantly learn whether there is a
problem with the DAS code. And then the actual retrieval
should proceed in an automatic way.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Fourth, in the case where the filer is providing the DAS
access code in an ADS, can Patent Center simply extract
the computer-readable DAS access code from the ADS and
validate it in real time against DAS, at the time of the
upload of the ADS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Fifth, in the case where the filer is providing the DAS
access code in a web-based ADS, can Patent Center simply
validate it in real time against DAS, at the time of the
upload of the filer's entry of the DAS access code into
the web-based ADS. Note that we first asked for this in
July of 2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p>Sixth, Patent Center should display, in the foreign
priority tab, the results of the cross-check against DAS
(success or failure).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Seventh, <span
style="font-family:"Libre Franklin";color:#333333;background:white">Patent
Center should display, in the foreign priority tab,
the results of the retrieval attempt from DAS. If the
retrieval from DAS worked, Patent Center needs to say
so, along with the date that it happened and whether
or not that date satisfies the 4-and-16 date. If the
retrieval from DAS failed, Patent Center needs to say
so.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Libre Franklin";color:#333333;background:white">Eighth,
any time that the USPTO tries to retrieve an ECC from
DAS and fails, the USPTO should explicitly communicate
this failure to the filer by means of an email
notification, providing verbatim the text of the error
message from DAS.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Libre Franklin";color:#333333;background:white">Ninth,
any time that the USPTO tries to retrieve an ECC from
DAS and succeeds, the USPTO should explicitly
communicate this success to the filer by means of an
email notification.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/6/2024 10:01 AM, Krista Jacobsen
via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the responses. There
are a number of frustrating aspects to this. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will proceed with a "corrected"
ADS, request for corrected filing receipt, and old
SB/38 form. And, of course, an interim copy. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe this situation calls for
another group letter? I can volunteer to draft one
and circulate for comments (though probably not
immediately).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Krista<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 8:42<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM
Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice <<a
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<p>What he said. It is super important to set up
tracking in the DAS system for every would-be
priority document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/6/2024 9:09 AM, Randall
Svihla via Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi,
Alan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sometime
the USPTO misreads the access code (B for 8
or 8 for B, etc.) and submits the wrong
access code, Sometimes the client gives you
the wrong access code. By setting up
tracking in the WIPO Digital Access Service,
you can see these errors.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best
regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Randall
S. Svihla</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Patentpractice <a
href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Taboada via
Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 6, 2024
11:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners.
This is not for laypersons to seek legal
advice. <a
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Taboada <a
href="mailto:ataboada@mtiplaw.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><ataboada@mtiplaw.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice]
venting - failure to download priority
document from DAS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">In
the past, we have submitted a corrected ADS
with the DAS code provided.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">However,
I would love to know if there is a better
way to get this done as, in our experience,
the USPTO has been failing to retrieve
priority applications much more frequently
and with greater and greater hoops to be
jumped through to try to get the USPTO to
electronically retrieve the certified copy
of the priority document. In some cases, we
needed to resort to obtaining a paper
version of the certified copy ourselves to
provide to the USPTO because the USPTO is
incapable of obtaining it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Having
seen Randall\u2019s email prior to hitting send,
we will try that to see if that gives us
better results (thanks, Randall)!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Patentpractice <a
href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Krista Jacobsen via
Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 6, 2024 10:44
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This
is not for laypersons to seek legal
advice. <a
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Krista Jacobsen <a
href="mailto:krista@jacobseniplaw.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><krista@jacobseniplaw.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice]
venting - failure to download priority
document from DAS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have the
same question as Erin, and I cannot find
an answer. Am I being dumb?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">An
application ("FPA") was filed in a
non-U.S. office, but one that participates
in DAS. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">A U.S.
non-provisional application ("USNP") was
filed and claims priority to FPA.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The DAS code
for FPA was not provided by the foreign
associates before USNP was filed, so the
DAS code does not appear in the field of
the ADS. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The 4/16
deadline is approaching, and I need to
request that the USPTO retrieve a
certified copy of FPA from DAS. (Will also
be submitting an interim copy in case they
dawdle.)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It seems like
it should be simple to do this ("Hi,
here's the DAS code for the application
you already know about, please retrieve
it"), and yet I cannot figure out how.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Years ago
when I had to do this, I submitted an
SB/38 form, which had an Option B that
allowed the DAS code to be provided. But
that form is dated 2017 and seems to have
been abrogated.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The current
SB/38 form only "requests that the USPTO
retrieve a copy of the following foreign
priority application(s) <u>that was not
filed in a foreign intellectual property
office participating with the USPTO in a
priority document exchange agreement</u>
('Participating Office') but was submitted
in an application subsequently filed with
a Participating Office that permits the
USPTO to retrieve such copy." <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">That is not
my situation. I just need to provide a DAS
code so the USPTO can retrieve the
application from another Participating
Office.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Do I submit a
"corrected" ADS to provide the DAS code in
the foreign priority info section? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is there a
different form to do this that I have
missed? I looked through the list of forms
provided by the USPTO and did not see
anything that seemed applicable.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks in
advance.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Krista<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Krista S.
Jacobsen<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Attorney and
Counselor at Law<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Jacobsen IP
Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="mailto:krista@jacobseniplaw.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">krista@jacobseniplaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">T:
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, May
16, 2024 at 9:52<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Erin
Geraghty via Patentpractice <<a
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">That form
seems to only allow for obtaining
from an EP/JP case in which the
priority application was filed,
right? It does not mention
obtaining the document from WIPO.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>Please
retrieve the foreign priority
application identified in Column
C, a copy of which is contained in
the EP or JP application
identified in Columns A and B:</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">There
does not appear to be an actual
form for requesting the PTO pull
the priority document via DAS? Am
I missing something? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Apologies
if this is a stupid question,
maybe I need more caffeine. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Erin
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PTO/SB/38 Request to Retrieve
Electronic Priority Application(s)
(the old form with options A and
B) to see if they would retrieve
it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">It\u2019s even
more frustrating when they check
the box on the OA or NOA saying it
was received and it hasn\u2019t been.
This happens a lot and when we
check Patent Center, it isn\u2019t
there. Then we have to try and
get in touch with someone to
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Especially as they do not notify
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application that claims priority
only from a non-US application.
Foreign priority app is in DAS
(I checked with WIPO). Provided
the USPTO with the foreign
application no. and the DAS
retrieval code on an ADS at the
time of filing. Got the filing
receipt, and it acknowledges the
foreign priority claim and that
the DAS code was provided, and
says that the USPTO "will
attempt to electronically
retrieve" the priority doc. But
of course, the p.d. isn't yet in
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waits to retrieve the p.d. is
not news, Carl and others have
written about it. But it still
bugs me: how hard would it be
for the PTO to retrieve the
document NOW instead of waiting?<o:p></o:p></p>
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