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<p>WIPO has a collection
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/texts/nat_sec.html">https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/texts/nat_sec.html</a> of national
security requirements for about 24 countries. It is a
straightforward matter to run one's finger down through the list
of 24 requirements, and to work out country-pairs where it is
literally impossible to figure out how to proceed. I'd guess you
have identified one of the "impossible" country-pairs.</p>
<p>You know how there are cruise ships whose entire business model
is, the ship comes into port, picks up passengers, and then sails
some number of miles out to sea, past a territorial limit or
something. So that everybody can gamble and it does not violate
the laws of any country because it is in international waters.</p>
<p>The only solution I can see for some of the country pairs is to
roll back the clock and put your two inventors on such a ship.
And time it all so that the inventing happens only in
international waters.</p>
<p>What you will find, when you run your finger down the list of
countries, is that the precise trigger (the thing that makes it so
that somebody goes to prison or whatever) is very different from
one country to the next. With some countries, it is "where was
the invention made?" With some countries it is "is any inventor a
citizen of our country?" So if the country you are worried about
triggers on citizenship of inventor, it does not help to put the
inventors on Carl's cruise ship.</p>
<p>Also look at consequences of failure, per country. If the only
consequence of failure is "you lose your patent rights in that
country" then that might turn out to be a business decision of
"who cares?" If on the other hand the consequence is prison time,
well, that might be a greater concern.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/13/2024 7:38 AM, Richard
Straussman via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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All,<br>
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I am wracking my brain over this one and am looking for the
collective wisdom of the brilliant members of the ListServ.<br>
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Assume that an invention is jointly collaboratively developed and
invented by two persons, one located in and a resident of, the
U.S., and the other located in and a resident of India. <br>
<br>
Both countries require a foreign filing license before the
technology can be "exported." If the U.S. is to be the place of
first filing, then one needs to get an Indian FFL before that
filing. However, in order to do so, the Indian Patent Office
needs the application to review it. But sending it to them
theoretically violates the need for a U.S. FFL. Likewise, if
India is to be the place of first filing, then you need a U.S. FFL
before you can file there, but that would violate the Indian
requirement.<br>
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Assume that first filing a PCT application is NOT an option
(irrespective of whether or not that solves the problem), how have
folks in such a situation reconciled the issue?<br>
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Thanks in advance!<br>
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