<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>If it's a statutory restriction (as opposed to election of species), and you elected with no traverse, yes, I think you need to use "withdrawn" (and I don't think you're giving up anything by doing so).</div><div><br></div><div>Just FYI. The 1980s edition of the Kayton Treatise on which I cut my teeth said "never take a telephone restriction" I never have. At the very least, you want the traverse so you can rejoin later if the facts warrant.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 5:02\u202fPM Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>When exactly am I required to use the status identifier
"withdrawn"?</p>
<p>I was taught, years ago, that it was up to me when if ever I
would use that status identifier. <br>
</p>
<p>Suppose there was a restriction between three independent claims
1, 2, and 3 and suppose I elect claim 2. <br>
</p>
<p>What I was taught was, I was not required to use a status
identifier of "withdrawn" for claim 1 until I was good and ready.</p>
<p>Eventually maybe the time would come that claim 2 gets allowed,
and maybe the client would be prepared to suck it up and get a
patent with only claim 2. If so, then I would cancel claim 1 and
next thing you know I would get a notice of allowance.</p>
<p>Just now I have the following sequence of events (claim numbers
changed to protect the innocent).</p>
<ul>
<li>Independent claims 1, 2, 3 filed.</li>
<li>Examiner calls on the phone, restricts saying there are three
inventions.</li>
<li>On the phone I elect claim 2.</li>
<li>Examiner mails an Office Action, memorializing the election
and rejecting claim 2.</li>
<li>I file a response to the Office Action. Claims 1 and 3 have
status identifier "original". Claim 2 has status identifier
"presently amended".</li>
<li>Examiner mails a notice of non-compliant amendment, saying
that I should have used status identifier "withdrawn" for claims
1 and 3.</li>
</ul>
<p>Question. Is this the Examiner busting my chops with a made-up
rule? Or is it really true that my hands are tied and I had no
choice but to give a status of "withdrawn" for claims 1 and 3?<br>
</p>
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