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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The attorney can not file
their own application at least because that violates their ethical
obligations involving a prohibition on using client confidences.
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To my mind, the entirely different innovation is up for grabs for
someone else who conceives of it - if anyone does - bearing in
mind that the inventor's application will be prior art to that
when it publishes as will the commercial product from the
inventor, <i>e.g.</i>, when in public use or offered for
sale/sold.<br>
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</style><span class="c1"><strong>Richard Straussman</strong></span><span
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</strong></span> </span><strong><span class="c4">Senior
Counsel</span><span class="c5"><strong><br>
</strong></span> <span class="c6">Registered Patent Attorney</span><span
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/10/2024 1:08 PM, Patent Lawyer
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ok,
if, \u201c[t]he attorney should not have contributed that
entirely different innovation,\u201d can the attorney file their
own patent application for that \u201centirely different
innovation\u201d?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
know this is pushing the boundaries a bit, but I am sure
this kind of thing has happened.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From
a public policy point of view, should the \u201centirely
different innovation\u201d just go away or become public domain?
The client has the ability to commercialize the product,
including the patent attorney\u2019s contribution. The patent
attorney does not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> on
behalf of Patentpractice Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Patentpractice Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 12:41 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Patentpractice Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Richard Straussman
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rstraussman@weitzmanip.com"><rstraussman@weitzmanip.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentpractice] Patent lawyer as
inventor on client's application?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica">If the Inventor's answer after
trying to get recognition in multiple ways (and not
surprisingly, given his background) answered, "Do you
envision that this could be \u2026 ?" would have been "Heck no.
Never in a million years!" Then, in my view, that should
have been the end of it. The attorney should not have
contributed that entirely different innovation. I agree
that would be true inventing and well outside of the
attorney's role.
<br>
<br>
That is in sharp contrast to a circumstance where, for
example, a part is linearly moved by a mechanical actuator
and the inventor (who knows nothing about electronics) is
asked whether a solenoid could be used in place of the
mechanical movement, but the attorney knows they are
interchangeable and it is a trivial, non-inventive, swap.
Irrespective of what the inventor says, I would include the
solenoid, or state something like, "while the linear
actuator is shown as a mechanical device, the important
aspect is the linear movement, not the device used to supply
it, so it is to be appreciated that suitable electronic or
other devices that can provide the same linear movement can
alternatively be used."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><strong><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue">Richard
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</span></b><span class="c6"><span style="font-size:8.0pt">Member
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/10/2024 12:25 PM, Patent Lawyer via
Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all for the responses and
interesting discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">First, I will follow David Boundy's
guidance.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But let me give a little more context in
light of some other responses.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In this case, the invention is purely
100% mechanical. It relates to an improvement of a device
that has existed for over 100 years. The inventor's
expertise and background are all mechanical. He has zero
background in electrical or computer-related technology.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The patent attorney has expertise and
qualifications in electrical and computer-related
technologies.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">During drafting, the patent attorney
recognized that the 100% purely mechanical device could be
combined with a particular type of electrical device. This
combination is useful. But it was entirely out of the realm
of the inventor's knowledge or technical background. The
inventor would not have realized the problem, let alone
contemplated the solution. In this case, the patent
attorney's contribution was not "a particular
embodiment/application/combination \u2026 contemplated by the
inventors." The inventor's honest answer to " Do you
envision that this could be \u2026 ?" would have been "Heck no.
Never in a million years!"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As to the question: "What's the potential
advantage of naming the attorney as an inventor?"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well, what if ten years from now, the
invention makes a bazillion dollars, and the attorney wants
his share? Or maybe the patent attorney's heirs want his
share?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Or what if the inventor is in his 30s,
and the patent attorney is 65 years old, and the application
can get special treatment in the USPTO?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">[I once took over the prosecution of an
application that named two inventors, father and son. While
the father had the right technical qualifications, I was
sure he was named just to get the special "over 65"
treatment in the USPTO.]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Or what about all the arguments made here
a few weeks ago about over-inclusion of inventors rather
than under-inclusion? [Per Carl's recent email]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But again, I will follow Boundy's advice.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">P.S. Last year, I had dinner with an ex
and an old client. I'd worked with him in 1994-95, and got
him 5 or 6 patents. His invention (at a small company) made
the company a lot of money through patent enforcement and
licensing. At one point in the dinner, he got very earnest
and said he had something to get off his chest. Something
he had felt bad about for almost 30 years. He said he
always felt I should have been named an inventor. The
breakthrough in the invention came from something I'd asked
during one of our initial meetings. It gave him an insight
that he'd not previously had, and it was the way the
invention was implemented and claimed. Had I been named as
an inventor, I would just have assigned the invention to the
client anyway. Maybe it would have been nice to be named on
those patents, but that is just about vanity. I told him it
was no big deal and I still paid for dinner.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Patentpractice
<a
href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
on behalf of Patentpractice Patentpractice
<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Patentpractice Patentpractice <a
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Patentpractice Patentpractice <a
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>David Boundy <a
href="mailto:PatentProcedure@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><PatentProcedure@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentpractice] Patent lawyer as
inventor on client's application?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes. Exactly and emphatically.
Different facts and different case law leads to different
outcomes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 8:51 AM Carl
Oppedahl via Patentpractice <<a
href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>While we are on this topic. It was just a few weeks
ago that many members of this listserv piled on top of
each other, urging to anyone who would listen that if
you had to make a mistake with your inventor list, it
absolutely was better to commit the sin of misjoinder
than nonjoinder. That if you are going to make a
mistake with your inventor list, there are a seemingly
infinite number of risks and downsides and traps for
the unwary if your mistake were to be in the direction
of failing to include some otherwise possibly
deserving name on your inventor list. That a mistake
the other way (perhaps including some name on the
inventor list that might arguably not belong there)
was by far the less risky, had virtually no downsides,
and did not give rise to traps for the unwary.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>And yet now (I have not been keeping close score on
this) it seems that many of the same members of this
listserv are urging that no matter how deserving the
attorney might be to get included on the inventor
list, the correct next step is nonjoinder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/10/2024 8:38 AM, Jeffrey
Semprebon via Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Where I've had this issue
arise has been where, while drafting the
application, I've seen either a way to work
around the narrower claims based on the
inventor's disclosed embodiments or a way to
accomplish the same functional limitation with a
simpler structure than used by the inventors (or
both). <br>
<br>
Suppose that the client likes whatever
modification/alternative well enough to put it
into a dependent claim, and then during
examination it turns out that such limitation is
needed to distinguish over prior art found by
the examiner. In that case, does failing to name
the practitioner as inventor invite any risk if
the named inventors will have to truthfully
state during depositions that the practitioner
was the one who thought of that limitation?
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Jeffrey E. Semprebon<br>
Registered Patent Agent (mechanical)
looking for remote work<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="mailto:jesemprebon@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jesemprebon@gmail.com</a><br>
72 Myrtle Street<br>
Claremont, New Hampshire 03743<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at
7:40\u202fAM David Boundy via Patentpractice <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let me stress that. As
far as I know, there are no countervailing
benefits to be had or risks avoided by
naming the agent/attorney as inventor. It's
100% downside. Don't do it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another experience, I was
not directly involved in the case, but I was
in-house counsel at eSpeed during appeal
phase.
<a
href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11175138575348740529"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11175138575348740529</a>
(then look at the D Delaware cases). The
problem was that the lawyers (Fish &
Neave) mixed up who was wearing which hat,
between inventors, company management, and
the lawyers. That metastasized into a
comprehensive subject matter waiver. And
because of that, a tiny little document was
produced, and that turned into inequitable
conduct, and losing the case. eSpeed had
had a monopoly in its market. And then it
didn't.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's REALLY important to
understand role pigeonholes or information
compartmentalization, and keep everybody in
their pigeonholes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at
6:22\u202fAM David Boundy <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree with
Judith and Carl. It's a MISTAKE, a
potentially-catastrophic mistake with no
upside, for any lawyer to name
him/herself as an inventor, in-house or
outside. You're almost guaranteeing a
hole in the privilege, and potentially a
subject matter waiver. Back in my
litigator days, one of my little
specialties was depositions of
attorneys. If you have a witness that's
a fact witness or some issues, and the
attorney for others, oh man what a tasty
target rich environment. DON'T DO IT.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You'll find my name
on some of my early patents, but not
after I sat as guest of honor or a
couple depositions by Cravath, Kirkland
& Ellis, and similar firms, and
realized how many of my defense
counsel's objections would not be
possible if I had been a named inventor.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree with David
Hricik. His paper <a
href="https://digitalcommons.law.mercer.edu/jour_mlr/vol55/iss2/4/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">
https://digitalcommons.law.mercer.edu/jour_mlr/vol55/iss2/4/</a>
proceeds from these two sentences:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On the one occasion
the Federal Circuit did address this
issue, ... the court stated that as a
matter of law, practitioners can never
be inventors.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Federal Circuit
was wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's not the way it
works. When a panel majority of people
with black robes, presidential
appointments, and Senate Confirmations
say that it is fine -- no error, no
statutory violation, just fine -- to not
name lawyer as inventor, well, that's
the law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is not a close
call. Just don't.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 9, 2024
at 11:19\u202fPM Judith S via Patentpractice
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that as
outside counsel you should never
name yourself as an inventor for a
patent you wrote.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I've had more
than one in-house counsel who
contributed to the invention when we
were discussing it in committee. I
think that's not a big issue, if
in-house counsel becomes an
inventor.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Judith<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 9,
2024 at 12:40\u202fPM Suzannah K. Sundby
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I\u2019d also
question whether the patent
attorney is truly a \u201cjoint\u201d
inventor, i.e., worked in
\u2018collaboration\u2019, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Imho, patent
attorneys should never
<i>write themselves in</i> as
an inventor. After all, it is
our job to write what the
inventors envision is their
invention, not what we think
the inventors want to invent.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If a patent
attorney has a question as to
whether a particular
embodiment/application/combination
is contemplated by the
inventors and should therefore
be included as a claim, the
patent attorney should ask as
the inventors a <i>leading</i>
question, e.g., Do you
envision that this could be \u2026
?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sometimes
they say something that\u2019s a
great idea or yes, that\u2019s how
it could be implemented\u2026 I
then correct them and say it
is what I understood from
their own disclosure and/or I
didn\u2019t know whether it would
work or not which is why I
asked, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/" target="_blank"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Patentpractice] Patent
lawyer as inventor on
client's application?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My view is
that you should not name
yourself inventor
without a Really Good
Reason. Here are the
reasons that you should
not name yourself as
inventor:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>\u25cf If you are merely
the attorney, not the
inventor, you are
unlikely to be called
for deposition\u2014attorneys
generally don\u2019t get
deposed unless there\u2019s
some smell of
inequitable conduct in
the air first.<a
href="#m_-3273223265054125256_m_81799952662547" moz-do-not-send="true"><sup>[1]</sup></a>
However, if you are a
named inventor, you <i>will</i>
be deposed. And once
you\u2019re in the hot seat
in your role as
inventor, the scope of
questions that you can
be asked has little
bound, including
\u201cfishing expedition\u201d
questions for
inequitable conduct that
couldn\u2019t be asked if you
weren\u2019t already there.<a
href="#m_-3273223265054125256_m_81799952662547" moz-do-not-send="true"><sup>[2]</sup></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>\u25cf When a statement
of fact made solely as <i>attorney
argument</i> is
erroneous without
intent, it\u2019s not
inequitable conduct.<a
href="#m_-3273223265054125256_m_81799952662547" moz-do-not-send="true"><sup>[3]</sup></a>
However, if you are the
inventor, the same
argument could be an <i>inventor\u2019s
statement</i>, and
that statement might be
evaluated for
inequitable conduct on a
far different standard.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>\u25cf As a person that
is likely to become a
witness, you are
disqualified from
representing the client
in any litigation. The
disqualification may
extend to your firm.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">While the
Federal Circuit has not
explicitly blessed the
practice, it has at
least told district
courts not to invalidate
such patents under old
§ 102(f) (\u201cA person
shall be entitled to a
patent unless \u2026 he did
not himself invent the
subject matter sought to
be patented.\u201d), nor to
correct inventorship
under § 256:<a
href="#m_-3273223265054125256_m_81799952662547" moz-do-not-send="true"><sup>[4]</sup></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>\u2026 An attorney\u2019s
professional
responsibility is to
assist his or her client
in defining her
invention to obtain, if
possible, a valid patent
with maximum coverage.
An attorney performing
that role should not be
a competitor of the
client, asserting his
inventorship as a result
of representing his
client. Thus, to assert
that proper performance
of the attorney\u2019s role
is a ground for
invalidating the patent
constitutes a failure to
understand the proper
role of the patent
attorney.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <sup>[1]</sup>
<i>Ring Plus Inc v
Cingular Wireless
Corp.</i>, 614
F.3d 1354, ___, 6
USPQ2d 1022, ___
(Fed. Cir. 2010)
(material
misstatement in
Background was
material to
inequitable conduct,
but did not
establish intent to
deceive); Taltech
Ltd v Esquel Ents
Ltd., 604 F3d 1324,
___, 95 USPQ2d 1257,
___ (Fed. Cir. 2010)
(inequitable conduct
& atty fees in
undisclosed prior
art, atty
misstatement; intent
inferred from
circumstance &
lack evidence of
good faith).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <sup>[2]</sup>
Exergen Corp v
Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., 575 F3d 1312,
___, 91 USPQ2d 1656,
___ (Fed. Cir. 2009)
(FRCP 9(b) pleading
of inequitable
conduct reqs
specific who, what,
when, where and how,
including facts
implying intent).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><a
name="m_-3273223265054125256_m_817999526625474" moz-do-not-send="true"></a>
<sup>[3]</sup>
<i>Intirtool Ltd v
Texar Corp.</i>,
369 F3d 1289, ___,
70 USPQ2d 1780, ___
(Fed. Cir. 2004)
(inequitable conduct
of faulty
prosecution
arguments);
<i>Norian Corp v
Stryker Corp.</i>,
363 F3d 1321, 70
USPQ2d 1508 (Fed.
Cir. 2004)
(inequitable conduct
of faulty
prosecution
arguments);
<i>CFMT Inc v
Yieldup Int\u2019l
Corp.</i>, 349 F3d
1333, ___, 68 USPQ2d
1940, ___ (Fed. Cir.
2003) (inequitable
conduct of faulty
prosecution
arguments);
<i>Transonic Systems
Inc v Non-Invasive
Medical
Technologies Corp.</i>,
75 Fed.Appx. 765
(Fed. Cir. 2003)
(unpublished)
(inequitable conduct
of faulty
prosecution
arguments);
<i>Gambro Lundia AB
v Baxter
Healthcare Corp</i>,
110 F3d 1573, ___,
42 USPQ2d 1378, ___
(Fed. Cir. 1997).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <sup>[4]</sup>
<i>Solomon v.
Kimberly-Clark
Corp.</i>, 216
F.3d 1372, 1382, 55
USPQ2d 1279, 1285
(Fed. Cir. 2000).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Dec
9, 2024 at 1:40\u202fPM Carl
Oppedahl via
Patentpractice <<a
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<p>I have had this happen
half a dozen times over
the years. I send the
standard email "here are
the claims, please look
at them and tell me if
we have named all of the
inventors" and next
thing you know, I am
told I am a co-inventor.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>When this happens, I
simply sign a
declaration and
asssignment, record the
assignment, and give it
no further thought.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Yes I suppose one could
concoct situations where
(for example) a
malfeasant patent
attorney could
intentionally slip a
"not" into the
assignment, or could
intentionally do
something or another
during prosecution that
would somehow favor the
attorney. To the extent
that one decides that
such risks would need to
be somehow addressed,
yes one cannot imagine
any approach other than
transferring everything
about the case
(including the
assignment task) to
separate counsel.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>One imagines the client
would get stuck paying
lots of money to new
counsel for them to
spend the time needed
gain familiarity with
the file.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I guess I have sort of
assumed that if I can be
trusted not to screw
over the client in the
handling of the file in
general (before I was
identified as a
co-inventor), I ought to
be able to be trusted
not to screw over the
client in the remaining
tasks. But you raise
valid questions that I
have never thought
about.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 12/9/2024
1:03 PM, Patent Lawyer
via Patentpractice
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What issues /
concerns are there
with a patent
attorney being named
an inventor on their
client's patent
application?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Assume that
the attorney will
assign all rights in
the invention to the
client/applicant,
should the attorney
advise them to have
someone else handle
the assignment?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Are there
privilege issues?
(In a communication
with the client, who
are you? Attorney or
co-inventor?)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Does the
patent attorney have
to advise the PTO?
Is there a conflict
of any sort?<o:p></o:p></p>
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