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</span>Hope you get it soon. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Or better yet, hope the Examiner decides to allow the application instead.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Krista Jacobsen via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 13, 2024 9:36 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Krista Jacobsen <krista@jacobseniplaw.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Patentpractice] Examiner's answer to appeal brief not received within 2 months<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hi Randall,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">This is very helpful information \u2014 thank you. We are not way past the 2-month deadline, so perhaps the examiner did prepare the answer
on time, and it\u2019s going through back-end processing. It is good to know that the examiner will get dinged and her supervisor will automatically be notified if she doesn't get it done by the internal deadline. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Thanks again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Krista<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Krista S. Jacobsen<br>
Attorney and Counselor at Law<br>
Jacobsen IP Law<br>
krista@jacobseniplaw.com<br>
T: 408.455.5539<br>
www.jacobseniplaw.com<br>
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NOTICE: This communication may include privileged or confidential information. If received in error, please notify the sender and delete this communication without copying or distributing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">On Dec 13, 2024, at 6:25\u202fAM, Randall Svihla <rsvihla@nsiplaw.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hi, Krista</span></font><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The Examiner will get hit with minus points on the workflow management element of their rating if they don't
issue an Examiner's answer by the deadline on their docket report, and the case will pop up on his supervisor's list of late cases, so that will prevent an Examiner from sitting on the Appeal Brief forever.</span></font><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">When I was an Examiner, we had to issue an Examiner's Answer by the end of the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="spelle">biweek</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>that
included the date that was two months after the Appeal Brief was placed on our docket. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>That may have changed slightly, but is still approximately correct, <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>And it takes
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<<a href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><font color="purple"><span style="color:purple">patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</span></font></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf
Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Krista Jacobsen via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 13, 2024 9:02 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><font color="purple"><span style="color:purple">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</span></font></a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Krista Jacobsen <<a href="mailto:krista@jacobseniplaw.com"><font color="purple"><span style="color:purple">krista@jacobseniplaw.com</span></font></a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Patentpractice] Examiner's answer to appeal brief not received within 2 months<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">According to the transaction history, the appeal brief in an application was forwarded to the examiner over 2 months ago. We have not
yet received the examiner's answer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(Note the word "should," which seems problematic, at least because the appeal cannot be forwarded to the PTAB without an examiner's answer.
What's to stop an examiner from just sitting on the appeal brief forever?)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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can do when the examiner misses the 2-month (apparently soft) deadline to provide the answer?<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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