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<p>Colleagues, your suffering inspired a blog article: <a
href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/uspto-mail-room-works-unacceptably-slowly/"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://blog.oppedahl.com/uspto-mail-room-works-unacceptably-slowly/</a></p>
<p>I am sorry for your suffering, but maybe the blog article will
nudge somebody at the USPTO to take corrective action.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/2024 7:24 AM, Andrea R.
Jacobson via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In our experience, it is common for
it to take several weeks for a paper priority document to be
placed into the transaction history of a US application. We
mailed one in September 5, it as stamped received September
9, and it was in the file wrapper significantly in November
\u2013 but with the September 9 date.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>If you are able to file the SB38 to
retrieve an electronic copy of it, that usually works in a
matter of days.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
Patentpractice
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 15, 2024 9:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a>; for Users of
the Patent Cooperation Treaty
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com"><pct@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] getting certified copy
to the USPTO (was paper certified copy [foreign
priority] not showing up image file wrapper (patent
center) for 111 bypass [CIP of PCT])</span></p>
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<p>Was the US national phase entered from this PCT? If yes,
then what should have happened is your Examiner ought to have
gone and found the priority document in the parent case.</p>
<p>Is Country X a Depositing Office in DAS for this kind of
priority document? If yes, then the path is clear. Run,
don't walk, to Country X and do what it takes to get the
patent office there to make the application available to DAS.
This includes obtaining the DAS access code. Then use the DAS
system to set up "tracking" for the application and download a
Certificate of Availability from DAS. Then fill out Form
PTO-SB38 (
<a
href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/PTO-SB-38.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://blog.oppedahl.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/PTO-SB-38.pdf</a>
) and e-file it in your allowed case. Then follow up with an
email to
<a href="mailto:pdx@uspto.gov" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pdx@uspto.gov</a> to get the
USPTO to retrieve the electronic certified copy. Bob's your
uncle.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/15/2024 4:17 AM, William Ahmed via
Patentpractice wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Friends,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FACT-PATTERN (background)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(1a) One of our cases recently got
allowed -- this was a 111 bypass [CIP] of a PCT.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(2a) The PCT claimed priority to a
non-US priority application [let's call this non-USA
country "Country X"]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(3a) For some reason, the PCT-filing
attorney never obtained a PDAS code - they simply filed
the PCT in the receiving office of "Country X," and
Country X's receiving office provided it to WIPO.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(4a) An interim copy was
electronically submitted via EFS-web within 4 months of
CIP filing. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(5a( I confess that we were NOT
diligent about submitting the paper certified copy and
waited until allowance.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FACT-PATTERN (CURRENT STATUS )</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(1b) We still have plenty of time
until the issue-fee deadline - about two months [Rule 55
requires that "a certified copy of the foreign
application must still be filed during the pendency of
the application"]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(2b) Our plan (is)(was) to Fedex a
paper certified copy to the USPTO before paying the
issue-fee.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(3b) we actually FEDEXED the
certified copy to the address in the APPENDIX below.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(4b) the USPTO signed for it about
two weeks ago. We have "proof of delivery" [they signed
for at 9 PM on a particular day]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(5b) two weeks later, we cannot see
the paper certified copy in the file wrapper.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Even though we have time to 'correct'
and to re-send, we would like to figure out what
happened.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">MY QUESTION --> Does anyone have
experience with this? Please advise.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bill</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">APPENDIX</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We obtained a paper certify copy and
FedExed it to:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">United States Patent and
Trademark Office</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Customer Service Window, Mail
Stop Amendment</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Randolph Building 401 Dulany
Street</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">22314 ALEXANDRIA Virginia</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">UNITED STATES OF AMERICA</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They SIGNED signed for it and we
have the Fedex "proof of delivery" (which is probably
worthless until we see priority document online at
Patent Center).</p>
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