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<p>And again - thanks Rick!<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/17/2025 11:22 AM, Rick Neifeld via
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<div dir="ltr">I again notify everyone that my forms which
have always "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Aptos Serif",Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,serif;font-size:14.6667px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Aptos Serif",Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,serif;font-size:14.6667px">put
the cumulative number in each IDS" (1) do that, (2) have
in the past complied with the 1.98 rules for IDS format
and (3) .... are available for your download from my
firm's website. BR, Rick</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at
12:32\u202fAM Scott Nielson via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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I don't trust spreadsheets to be up to date and
accurate. My plan is to put the cumulative number in
each IDS so that when I need to file a new IDS, I
simply look at the last one for the latest count and
update it in the new IDS.</div>
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on behalf of Pamela Brisky (Fujitsu) via
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025 1:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not
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<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Brisky (Fujitsu) <<a href="mailto:pbrisky@fujitsu.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pbrisky@fujitsu.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Inquiry About
Changes to IDS Forms</font>
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<p>Also - Just curious. Anyone have any best
practice suggestions on keeping track of the
citation count? Is anyone using spreadsheets?
Are admin support reviewing at IDS filing?
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<p>Thanks in advance,</p>
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<p>Pam</p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pamela Brisky
(Fujitsu) via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025
3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This
is not for laypersons to seek legal
advice. <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice]
Inquiry About Changes to IDS Forms</span></p>
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<p>Actually, no. They provided a response earlier
(attached) that simply stated that the forms
will be available for use on January 19.</p>
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<p>The found my email again today and provided an
additional response.</p>
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<p>Pam</p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Randall Svihla via
Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025
3:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice]
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">It
took them 36 days to reply???</span></p>
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<p><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pamela Brisky
(Fujitsu) via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025
2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carl Oppedahl via
Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Brisky (Fujitsu) <<a href="mailto:pbrisky@fujitsu.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pbrisky@fujitsu.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] FW:
Inquiry About Changes to IDS Forms</span></p>
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<p>Hi everyone,</p>
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<p>Just received from the USPTO \u2026</p>
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<p>Pam</p>
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Practice <<a href="mailto:PatentPractice@USPTO.GOV" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">PatentPractice@USPTO.GOV</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 16, 2025
2:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brisky, Pamela <<a href="mailto:pbrisky@fujitsu.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pbrisky@fujitsu.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Inquiry About Changes
to IDS Forms</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt">Thank you for your
inquiry. We sincerely apologize for the delay
in replying. The SB/08A and SB/08B will not be
modified to include the size fee assertion
statements. However, another new form will be
available to select a size fee assertion.
Additionally, the IDS autoload form will be
updated to include an option for selecting a
size fee assertion.
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<p><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Pamela
Brisky (Fujitsu) <<a href="mailto:pbrisky@fujitsu.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pbrisky@fujitsu.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2024
2:20 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:FPC-atty-agent@fujitsu.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">FPC-atty-agent@fujitsu.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Inquiry About Changes to
IDS Forms</span></p>
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<p>Good afternoon:</p>
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<p>Will the patent center versions of the IDS
form SB/08A be updated to include the mandated
fee statements discussed at 89 FR 91925,
Section 8, as follows:</p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><i>Additionally,
the USPTO is amending §\u20091.98(a) to include a
new content requirement for an IDS that will
facilitate implementation of the IDS size
fee. Specifically, the USPTO is requiring
that an IDS contain a clear written
assertion by the applicant and patent owner
that the IDS is accompanied by the
appropriate IDS size fee or that no IDS size
fee is required. This assertion is necessary
because it ensures the record is clear as to
which fee the applicant or patent owner
believes may be due (or that no fee may be
due) with the IDS so the examiner can
promptly ascertain whether the IDS is
compliant. There is no specific language
required for the written assertion, but it
should be readily identifiable on the IDS
and clearly convey the applicable IDS size
fee by specifying the particular paragraph
in §\u20091.17(v) that applies (
</i><em><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-style:normal">e.g.,</span></em><i>
\u201cthe fee due under 1.17(v)(2)\u201d), if any.</i></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in"><i> </i></p>
<p>If so, will the forms be available before the
fee changes effective Jan 19, 2025?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Thank you in advance for your help with this
matter.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Pamela Cei Brisky</p>
<p>Senior Patent Paralegal</p>
<p>Fujitsu Intellectual Property Center</p>
<p>Fujitsu North America, Inc.</p>
<p>(571) 216-2112 </p>
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