<div dir="ltr">I'm aware of the regulation. I don't think there's any ambiguity in the clash, that 37 CFR 1.53 arrogates authority that the statute does not grant. The question is what to do about it.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 1:51\u202fAM Randall Svihla <<a href="mailto:rsvihla@nsiplaw.com">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8808730349195581174">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi, David<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What about 37 CFR 1.83?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">§ 1.83 Content of drawing.<u></u><u></u></span></font></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:0.5in"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(a)
<u>The drawing in a nonprovisional application must show every feature of the invention specified in the claims.</u><span>
</span>However, conventional features disclosed in the description and claims, where their detailed illustration is not essential for a proper understanding of the invention, should be illustrated in the drawing in the form of a graphical drawing symbol or
a labeled representation (e.g., a labeled rectangular box).<span>
</span>In addition, tables that are included in the specification and sequences that are included in sequence listings should not be duplicated in the drawings.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:0.5in"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(b) When the invention consists
of an improvement on an old machine the drawing must when possible exhibit, in one or more views, the improved portion itself, disconnected from the old structure, and also in another view, so much only of the old structure as will suffice to show the connection
of the invention therewith.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:0.5in"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(c)
<u>Where the drawings in a nonprovisional application do not comply with the requirements of paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section, the examiner shall require such additional illustration within a time period of not less than two months from the date of the
sending of a notice thereof.</u><span> </span>Such corrections are subject to the requirements of § 1.81(d).<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regard,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Randall S. Svihla<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">NSIP Law<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span> Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>David Boundy via Patentpractice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 28, 2025 5:06 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> David Boundy <<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com" target="_blank">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Patentpractice] Obnoxious requirement for drawing<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">The examiner is requiring a new drawing to show completely routine stuff. I am inclined to give the examiner a hand-drawn interim draft, and explain as follows. Is there a
better way to do this? I don't want the risk of new matter -- this examiner has been a complete SOB and I don't trust him to not raise a new matter issue if I send the new drawing.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">In response to an objection to the drawings, Applicant tentatively tenders the attached draft FIG. 8<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Applicant questions the PTO\u2019s authority to issue this requirement. The applicable statute, 35 U.S.C. § 113, permits the Director to require new drawings only \u201cwhere necessary
for the understanding of the subject matter sought to be patented.\u201d In five Actions, \u201cunderstanding\u201d of the relationship of the [x, y, and z] were never an issue. This Action makes no such allegation. Without a credible showing of "necessary for understanding,"
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Nonetheless, Applicant has translated several mentions of [x, y, and z] in the specification into a minimalist drawing that introduces no new matter. Applicant stipulates that this new drawing is not offered, and may not be used, (i) to overcome any insufficiency
of the specification due to lack of an enabling disclosure or otherwise inadequate disclosure therein, or (ii) to supplement the original disclosure thereof for the purpose of interpretation of the scope of any claim.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Applicant does not offer this tentative drawing for entry, only to prevent abandonment, and to demonstrate that the new figure contributes nothing to \u201cunderstanding of the subject
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