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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2025 1:43 PM, Justin Miller via
Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<div>I have left my previous law firm and<span
class="gmail_default"> am starting my own law firm. </span><span>This
happened a bit faster than I had anticipated, so I was not
quite ready.</span></div>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">A number of clients with
pending patent applications have transferred their matters
to my new firm. I need to respond to numerous office
actions, and need to update the POAs first.</span></div>
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<div>Based on conversations with<span class="gmail_default"> the
AAU, my first step is to file a request for customer
number, </span>PTO/SB/125A<span class="gmail_default">:</span></div>
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<p>You can get a customer number instantly in Patent Center. It
takes three mouse clicks. No need to wait two weeks. What a
pity (and how unexpected) that the AAU would get this so terribly
wrong.<br>
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<div>My understanding is this takes 2 weeks<span
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Nope. 2 minutes.<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">I am told that I then need to
file the Patent Electronic System Verification Form, </span><span
class="gmail_default"></span>PTO\u20102042a<span
class="gmail_default">:</span></div>
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<div>It seems that this form will connect the new customer
number to a<span class="gmail_default"> USPTO.gov login.</span></div>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">I imagine that's going to take
another 2 weeks.</span></div>
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How have you been logging in at MyUSPTO and other places (like
Patent Center) for all these years? That user ID and password are
already linked to your practitioner registration number and are
already "verified". Just keep using that user ID and password. If
necessary, update the email address that you use on that user ID.<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">My question is how to file the
new POAs and office action responses while I wait.</span></div>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">I see that I can file a POA
using contact information rather than a customer number, but
I cannot see how to file the POA electronically.</span></div>
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You just go to Patent Center, plug in the application number and
confirmation number, and e-file the POA. Same as you would e-file
anything in any application. <br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">I created a new USPTO.gov login
using my new email address, but it does not appear to have
permission to file into any existing patent applications (I
receive a 401 error).</span></div>
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I would stop trying to use that user ID and password. As far as I
can see it was wasted time to try to create that.<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">I have access to my old
USPTO.gov login, but of course it is associated with the
customer number of my previous law firm.</span></div>
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You are entitled to keep using that old login ID. If need be, you
update the email address associated with that old login ID. And
then it is only a matter of a few mouse clicks to get yourself
un-associated with any old customer numbers that you should not be
associated with any more.<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default">Am I stuck using fax (which
seems slow based on what you have all shared) or mail?</span></div>
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No. And mail would be just as slow as fax, or slower.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sincerely,
<div>Justin P. Miller</div>
<div>Distinct Patent Law</div>
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