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<p>You can also just leave it all unchecked and generate your own
transmittal -- although that will cause you to lose any PTA.</p>
<p>My understanding is that if you modify the form, you have to
remove OMB. HOWEVER -- if you just type extra things on top of the
form, you're not modifying the form, you're just unconventially
filling it out, like making a note on a paper form.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/2025 10:45 AM, Jeffrey
Semprebon via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Not that it answers your question on the OMB
number, but in this case I'd be tempted to leave both boxes
unchecked and just list the copy of the published application
under "other items or information" in the box for item #20.<br>
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11:36\u202fAM Patent Lawyer via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">If I modify a PTO form, must I remove
the OMB approval notice?</font></span>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">Why am I modifying a form? Short
answer: because it is crap!<br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">I am filing a national phase entry.
Even though the application was published, I like to
provide a copy of the published internatinal
applicaiton with the filing.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">The old form PTO-1390 [<span style="text-align:justify">PTO-1390 (12-22)
Approved for use through 11/30/2025. OMB 0651-0021</span><span style="text-align:justify">] </span>had this
option:</font></span></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;min-height:14px"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
</font></span></div>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 3.8px;text-align:justify;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><img id="m_-80951889853220634527DBFD160-D264-4B61-85FE-410AE347C935" width="723" height="41" src="cid:part1.XSS0gmHH.dDOAUaon@outlook.com" class=""></font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">The current form PTO-1390 [<span style="text-align:justify">PTO-1390 (01-25)
Approved for use through 11/30/2025 OMB
0651-0021] </span>has the following:</font></span></div>
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</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><img id="m_-8095188985322063452B53D56AE-41EB-402B-8407-02F51F7F6B36" src="cid:ii_1958b0564e2c58e0062" moz-do-not-send="true"></font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><font color="#0056d6"><span style="font-size:12px">I
cannot select option "a" because the application is
attached. And </span><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px">I cannot
select option "b" because it is not true.</span></font></div>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">So I will modify the form (by
editing the PDF). Or maybe use the old one. </font></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">So, back to my question: if I modify
the current form, must I remove the OMB approval
notice?</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br>
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<div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">Another question (maybe for DB only):
these forms have the same OMB number. Can the PTO do
that even though the forms are different?</font></span></div>
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