<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>No. You do not need to remove the OMB notice. The "approval" is for the agency to <i><b>collect</b></i> it, not for you to submit it. 44 U.S.C. 3506, 3507, 3512. See, for example, <a href="https://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/PRAViewICR?ref_nbr=202410-0651-019" target="_blank">https://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/PRAViewICR?ref_nbr=202410-0651-019</a></div><div><br></div><div>But if you are using a home-grown form, there's no reason to include it either.</div><div><br></div><div>Sundby>
<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">My
understanding from a CLE w on OED person long ago is YES, must remove
the info even if you make a form that looks exactly lie the USPTO form.</span>
</div></div><div><br></div><div>My point exactly. There are not three neurons' knowledge of the Paperwork Reduction Act on Dulaney St, except for the three people most committed to breaking it.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:35\u202fAM Patent Lawyer via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">If I modify a PTO form, must I remove the OMB approval notice?</font></span><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">Why am I modifying a form? Short answer: because it is crap!<br></font></span><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">I am filing a national phase entry. Even though the application was published, I like to provide a copy of the published internatinal applicaiton with the filing.</font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">The old form PTO-1390 [<span style="text-align:justify">PTO-1390 (12-22) Approved for use through 11/30/2025. OMB 0651-0021</span><span style="text-align:justify">] </span>had this option:</font></span></div><div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;min-height:14px"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><p style="margin:0px 0px 3.8px;text-align:justify;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></p></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><img id="m_4047601191263237403m_-23113530762252313807DBFD160-D264-4B61-85FE-410AE347C935" width="723" height="41" src="cid:ii_1958b55f1225b206ef61"></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">The current form PTO-1390 [<span style="text-align:justify">PTO-1390 (01-25) Approved for use through 11/30/2025 OMB 0651-0021] </span>has the following:</font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><img id="m_4047601191263237403m_-2311353076225231380B53D56AE-41EB-402B-8407-02F51F7F6B36" src="cid:ii_1958b55f122c58e0062"></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><font color="#0056d6"><span style="font-size:12px">I cannot select option "a" because the application is attached. And </span><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px">I cannot select option "b" because it is not true.</span></font></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">So I will modify the form (by editing the PDF). Or maybe use the old one. </font></span></div></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">So, back to my question: if I modify the current form, must I remove the OMB approval notice?</font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><font color="#0056d6">Another question (maybe for DB only): these forms have the same OMB number. Can the PTO do that even though the forms are different?</font></span></div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>
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