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<div dir="ltr">We just got a notice today that a POA was accepted in an application 1 customer number 1 except it had already been with 1 and was moving to customer number 2.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Judith S via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Seems one now has to beg repeatedly to get a POA/Correspondence Change</font>
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<div>The most frustrating thing about the POA issue is that it seems to be random. When I started my own firm I filed many POA changes, and about half got accepted and half got rejected. They were all substantially identical (inventor assigned to company, and
we submitted a 3.73 form with the assignment chain and the POA). There was zero rhyme or reason for what was accepted and what was denied. Calling EBC just got "resubmit it" as the solution. So we just automatically resubmitted with the same information,
and hoped that the next iteration went through. They all did, after one or two tries.
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:04\u202fAM Timothy Snowden via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Yep. I just started my own firm and had that multiple times. I had several POAs rejected because it was 'changing the assignee' ... and the applicant was the sole inventor.
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<div>On 3/12/2025 12:58 PM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Yes, of course.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Note, essentially the same was filed in related case, which was accepted in the related case.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Randall Svihla
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<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
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<b>Cc:</b> Suzannah K. Sundby <a href="mailto:suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: Seems one now has to beg repeatedly to get a POA/Correspondence Change<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi, Suzannah<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Did you file a Statement Under 37 CFR 3.73(c) establishing the right of the new assignee to take action in the application?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Randall S. Svihla<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Washington, D.C.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2025 1:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Suzannah K. Sundby <<a href="mailto:suzannah@canadylortz.com" target="_blank">suzannah@canadylortz.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Seems one now has to beg repeatedly to get a POA/Correspondence Change<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Venting:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Sequence of events requesting change of applicant to new assignee + POA & Correspondence Address Change:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">8/8/2024<span> </span>Mail Non-Final Rejection<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/4/2025<span> </span>Filed Response, with EOT, Change of POA & Correspondence (included changing the applicant to the new assignee thus also included a corrected ADS)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/10/2025<span> </span>USPTO mailed Notice denying the POA/correspondence change request.<span>
</span>Note: USPTO denial was improper.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/10/2025<span> </span>Refiled POA/correspondence change request presenting same information differently<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/12/2025<span> </span>USPTO mailed Notice of Informal or Non-Responsive Amendment, claiming that it could not be entered/accepted since I did not have POA (note, if the response filed February 4 was not
entered, then the application would technically be abandoned bc after 6 month date).<span>
</span>I also called the USPTO to have them review/fix\u2026 but person said they couldn\u2019t really help except have someone review the change request papers.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/14/2025<span> </span>So, I filed a response to the BOGUS/IMPROPER Notice telling them that a formal acceptance of a POA form is not necessary, as my signature itself indicates that I am duly authorized
to make the submission.<span> </span>I again point out that I filed a proper change request, but filed again presenting the same requisite information for the POA/correspondence change request in a different format.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/20/2025<span> </span>USPTO denied entry of the POA/correspondence change request.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/26/2025<span> </span>Notice of Allowance mailed, but USPTO still did not accept the POA/correspondence change request.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">3/5/2025<span> </span>I refiled the POA/correspondence change request again presenting the same information in a different format.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">3/6/2025<span> </span>Corrected Filing Receipt mailed that finally updated the applicant to the new assignee.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">3/11/2025<span> </span>USPTO finally accepted and entered the POA BUT DID NOT update change the new correspondence address.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>So, I just filed a paper titled \u201cRequest for Change of Correspondence\u201d stating:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The undersigned respectfully requests Supervisory review and processing of its last change request,
<i><span style="line-height:150%">i.e</span></i>., Change of Power of Attorney and Correspondence Address, that was filed March 5, 2025.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The undersigned is <u>begging</u> whomever is reading the instant Request to please properly process its last change request,
<i><span style="line-height:150%">i.e</span></i>., Change of Power of Attorney (POA) and Correspondence Address, that was filed March 5, 2025.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The undersigned has filed multiple POA and correspondence change requests in the instant application, which each followed the requisite rules, yet were erroneously denied acceptance.<span>
</span>As such, the undersigned \u2018played the game\u2019 and resubmitted numerous times presenting the requisite information in various ways.<span>
</span>As of today, the POA has been accepted, but the correspondence address has not been updated.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">It is noted that the undersigned has been using the same form for over 10 years, which form a USPTO person in the Office of Initial Patent Examination Department instructed was the best/preferred way to indicate the correspondence
address change (to prevent confusion by the USPTO when processing).<span> </span>
That is, the POA form that was submitted on March 5, 2025 request that the correspondence is changed to the above indicated Customer Number as follows:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">[Excerpt]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Please, I beg you to properly change the correspondence address of the instant application to the Customer Number indicated above\u2014as was requested on the many previously filed requests, including the Change of POA form that was
filed on March 5, 2025 <u>which was accepted and entered</u>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Fingers crossed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Please pray for me and my sanity.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt; font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif; color:black"><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/" originalsrc="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/" target="_blank"><span style="color:black; text-decoration:none">Suzannah
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